Well, then, there's no need to be frustrated or there's no point. And, no one specified "AL" at all. The question was for ALL BASEBALL, I believe. F#$* that dumb rule in the AL, in my opinion.
Most baseball teams can eke out a run eventually if a pitcher is dominant enough. Steve Carlton went 27-10 for a team that only won 32 games besides his wins.
Hershiser didn't need any run support Here are Hershiser's scores during his 59-inning scoreless streak MON 0-0 W last 4 innings ATL 3-0 W 9 innings CIN 5-0 W 9 innings ATL 1-0 W 9 innings HOU 1-0 W 9 innings SFG 3-0 W 9 innings SDP 0-0 ND 10 innings --------------------- 13-0 59 innings = 5-0 W/Ls, 0.00 ERA on 1.98 run support per 9 innings
Unless it is a super elite GK I would think there is only so much a great soccer player could do if the rest of the team stunk up the joint.
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It depends... if the QB is getting hit a lot then I'd say that, but if he's "great" does that mean "succeeding currently" because then maybe he's not getting hit a lot. If the QB has the stipulation of also having a good O-line (making him great) then I'd probably say Basketball, because if you're the only one on the team that's worthy of attention you are probably getting a lot of contact and defense in your face.... whereas the others are just frustrating in general. Maybe that's somewhat the same for soccer, but I'd say not so much.
Good question and I am leaning towards being a pitcher on a team that gives no run support over a QB on a terrible team. Both players have little impact on half of the game but the difference with a good pitcher is that you aren't playing every game and are much more reliant on how the rest of the team does for overall success. If we look at the Stros from the late 90's we can see how painful lack of run support is. While in the NL pitchers can bat they make so few plate appearance that in a series their offense is pretty much negligible. That is why there have been players like Dave Winfield who are decent pitchers but far better hitters who end up not being pitchers. So while a great pitcher can make a difference for a team if you aren't getting run support it is likely the other pitchers on your team aren't either. Even if you can eke out a few low scoring victories it is not like you can carry the team since you only start every 4 to 5 games.
Probably a great striker in soccer (like Drogba) who can't get any service from the midfield. Likewise, a great midfield without a finisher would also be very frustrating.
well I was thinking about Zlatan with Sweden, he could do great things with a better supporting cast. and in the QB case what about Tom Brady, the last 3-4 years, the NE def sucks. he could have more rings if he had a better defense.
Agree, all of the other great players can still get their stats and even a little padding whereas a great soccer player won't be able to.
Yao Ming was a great player in his prime but the rest of his teammates on the Chinese basketball team sucks.
I wonder how much better England would have been with Giggs and now Bale. Such a shame they're Welsh. Same for Dwayne DeRosario. He would have been great in the middle for the US in 2010. Instead, he's canadian.
:grin: Or Olajuwon for the U.S.A., huh? Instead, he's Nigerian! Spoiler HELLO!?!? Someone should have told DeRo he should have become a U.S. citizen much earlier, man.
Between QB and Pitcher, I think being a QB would be more frustrating. You're getting severely beaten up and people associate the team's record with the QB, so you're going to be looked at as "less impressive" and/or part of the problem. On the other hand, an ace pitcher on a bad team is recognized as being on a bad team and rarely is given any of the blame for the team's suckiness.
Voted pitcher, simply because he can be perfect and still lose. Be it from lack of run support, or errors in the field. Throw in the high percentage risk of arm injuries, and the pressure of being alone on that mound. I think it's worth noting that this is the only one of the 3 where greatness is solely a matter of defense. The "greats" in each of the others are almost exclusively offensive. A pitcher is fundementally inactive in this sense, because he doesn't produce the offense. The other sports allow a single player to take over games and out offense another team for wins, and I think that amount of control over W/L makes the other situations slightly less frustrating.
