That attack captured on video is pretty disgusting. It's not "normal" either. It's the act of animals disguised as teenagers. We shouldn't just shrug off that type of behavior.
It kind of seems like you're grasping for straws with what you're trying to say. I'm in no way supporting Zimmerman when I say this statement but according to your logic when it comes to publicizing, the media shouldn't have publicized the Martin case because it can be dealt with according to you. And with respect to the Martin case, the media was using photos of Martin when he was like 9 instead of him as 17. I don't see anything wrong with them showing this video. These three kids need to be charged.
I'm not grasping at any straws at all, my viewpoint and opinions have been consistent throughout this thread. I've used different verbiage for the sake of not appearing redundant. I have no idea how Zimmerman or Martin are relevant to this. An adult resident and unofficial authority figure with a gun and an near-adult off of school grounds is a completely different scenario. Shootings of any kind are far rarer than school fights. Furthermore the verdict appears to have validated the officers' original assessment prior to the media scrutiny.
Honest question for the posters here: Has anyone in, while in school, ever witnessed a 3 on 1 assault where the attackers were all years older than than the victim? I saw numerous fights but they all played by a different set of rules.
You're right, breh, I don't know anything about this kid. On the flip side, besides the fact that he can't fight three dudes simultaneously, you don't know anything about him either. Your conjecture on the character of the victim and the assailants is as good as mine. What I can say from experience, as a person who can't go into the gas station next to my place without being offered weed, coke, prostitutes, or some combination of the three, is that drug dealers aren't that pushy. They offer, you say no, and you move on. Only the desperate ones will push, but even they don't want to draw too much attention to themselves. Dealer: ”Hey man, you need some white?” Me: ”Nah, I already got a guy for that.” Dealer: ”You want some green?” Me: ”I got a guy for that, too.” Dealer: ”But this is good.” Me: ”If it was good, you'd be selling from your house, or at least a fake apartment, and not next to the dumpster behind this gas station.” Dealer: ”...” Problem solved. I didn't justify or blame, I just explained it. I admit, after re-reading my post, that what I should have said was, ”He definitely didn't deserve it.” The world is an ugly place. I acknowledged that he was probably too young to understand. I bet he has a better understanding of how things work now. He probably got off light considering that those kids could have just gotten off at his stop, dragged him somewhere, and stabbed him to death. Moran.
to everyone saying he's 60 and can't defend anything... <object width="420" height="315"><param name="movie" value="//www.youtube.com/v/BePw-Rai5sw?version=3&hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="//www.youtube.com/v/BePw-Rai5sw?version=3&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="420" height="315" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object> Our country is becoming spineless and wussies. The Bus Driver should be charged with failing to provide medical aide, at the least
How was the driver supposed to provide medical aid when the kid took off immediately after the fight?
That was two old people fighting. I still don't think the bus driver should be charged with anything. Being 64 and verbally shouting down three 15 yr old assailants is the best he felt he could do. A 64 yr old man shouldn't be legally required to do more, nor do I get the moral reprehension that many are showing against him. Is there an age cutoff when guys can agree that it's too impractical to step up against 3 teenage thugs? This is the moral question, not the legal one. Because I don't think anyone would be arguing that a 70 year old should have stepped up.
Face, the bus driver was a wussy... he's 60, not 90. the man didn't even try to provide assistance to the kid afterwards. The kid was being head stomped, which can have lasting affects years afterwards. The driver should be treated just like someone witnessing a bad car wreck and failing to provide medical assistance. Maybe the schools need to start thinking about children's safety as more and more kids are being exposed to other kids in gangs, or ultra violent. If a bus driver can not provide protection for a child then he shouldn't even be driving. This is a public school bus, not a public transportation bus. Maybe start letting some gym teachers drive these buses, cause that **** would have been stopped when the second kid was attempting murder
I agree that he was a wussy, but you got to stop arguing the provide assistance route when the victim kid ran away. He was 64...agreed that it's not 90, but most guys die before that. Honest question: at what age do you think the guy should not be morally obligated to step up? 90? 80? 70? 65? How old are you? Do you know any 64 yr olds? Can you confidently say that a 64 yr old would be able to stop this without getting his ass beat by three 15 yr olds? I'm truly curious here...gonna start looking up 64 yr olds now.
You posted this once and ignored my question, so I'll ask it again. How was the bus driver supposed to provide assistance when the kid took off? Police said Moody could have given first aid to the victim after the attackers jumped off the bus. But Bartlett said the 13-year-old didn't hang around. "The kid gets up and skedaddles out the door," he said.
Just answer this. If this was reversed, if 3 white kids were stomping the head in of a black kid, would race be brought up? Yes. Would Quanal X ,or however you spell his stupid ass name, be on tv wanting the kids brought up on hate crime charges? Yes. Would the trial consist of ignoring it had anybody to with drugs, and going straight to 3 white kids beat up a black kid? Yes. Then lets be fair. That's what everyone says right? Blacks want it to be fair, Gay people want it to be fair, immigrants want it to be fair, so lets be fair. Charge the kids with Attempted Murder and slap on a Hate Crime to boot. Or I will tell what will happen. 2 things. Next time, they murder someone, and they serve life, or they screw with the wrong person, and their next victim has a gun, shoots them dead, and their parents get on TV whining about how ___ killed their sweet innocent baby, who was JUST turning their life around. Parents, if you don't raise your kids right, someone eventually will teach them a lesson they may not ever live to understand
Is it ironic how everyone bringing up race thus far are the ones who keep mentioning how race would be brought up if they were switched? Blame everyone, including yourselves, because racial tension sells papers. I doubt we would hear about this if all four kids were black. This had nothing to do with race. It was not a hate crime. They jumped him for snitching. I blame the school since you guys need someone to blame. They should have seen retaliation as a possibility and made sure the kids were expelled from the school bus and told them they would file a police report and expel them on their next strike.
