Should Jeremy Lin be more involved in the Rocket's offense?

^^steven a smith, CALM DOWN!

 

My friend, caps lock looks ridiculous. I am not worried as a LOF, Rockets are contenders and they will do what is best for the team. If that is Lin playing off the bench, good for him and the Rockets.

 

Here let me help you out so you can calm down. Do the calculations yourself, i'm not doing it for you.

 

can you redo the same for LIN with the W-L column displayed? OP's chart had the W-L column hidden. TIA

 

Yeah



Also these are Chalmers 2012-2013 season stats, that previous screenshot was for all the seasons.

 

No caps please. I did correlation on the 14+ FGA games (since that was what was quoted) AND on every game he played last season, and they are both low. But, I didn't do it to prove there was a correlation one way or the other, but to show that a correlation can't be demonstrated. The argument of the OP is to look at high-volume games and say, 'see he shot pretty good in those games, so we should give him more high-volume games.' And I'm saying I don't see that he shoots any better or worse with more shots.

 

Lin will be involved in the offense heavily as an off the ball guard unless it is a transition offense. In half court sets, it will be all Howard and Harden. They are our stars and Lin is not. Lin is simply not a good enough player to get a primary role in our offense. He is purely a support player as long as he plays in the starting lineup.

 

You ordered this by ppg. To be fair, you should be ordering it by fga. Chalmers's stats in games where he shot at least 14 attempts: 19.4 ppg, 4.6 assists, 46.2% FG%

 

I think Lin will have the ball more in his hand more and more.

As we all can see, Jeremy is used to have the ball in his hands and that is where he is most dangerous. Coach McHale knows that. It would be a waste of talent if nothing changes this upcoming season.

Jeremy is going to be better and Jeremy is going to have better STATS this upcoming season

 

Does anyone have Lin's stat summary for all 4th quarters last season?

Or even better, Lin's stats for the last 6 minutes of all games?

 

Clutch Statistics
(4th quarter or overtime, less than 5 minutes left, neither team ahead by more than 5 points)

Floor Time statistics
Min Net Pts Off Def Net48 W L Win%
70% -2 98.8 99.7 -0.9 16 19 45.7%

 

McHale does not run plays. He lets the team freelance. Lin gets to touch the ball every possession. If he isn't involved enough in the offense, it's on him. It's not like he never gets to touch the ball.

 

What ur conveniently ignoring is his sloppy ball handling, poor shooting & stupid turnovers. None of which is McHale's fault

 

So Rockets run a motion offense. Is that what you're saying?

 

yes from the point of view that he is the 'point guard' and initiates the offense.

The reason why I think you start lin is that he has great dribble penetration. To me that is pretty much his main strength. His probbaly other best strength is passing. So I see him being a good complement to harden and howard in terms of getting them the ball in situations that allow them to score.

I see lins ceiling being something like kidd in that he initiates, he takes the shot if he gets it, but his main goal and role is penetrating and assists.

On defense I find him to be good enough and I think he is over par in terms of steals and overall defense. He is a smart player and I see him as a solid option on defense.

With lin dribble penetrating there should be nights when he can get to the free throw line area , and even paint on his penetration and I see him making some easy layups and easier shots. I hope to go mchale doesnt park him at 3 because then everyone will fade off him.

I was at the SA game last year when harden was hurt and lin took over game with dribble penetration and scoring. He can score he just doesnt NEED to in this offense but if they are going to fade off him he needs to know that he should be inside and close making those shots and games where he might score over 25 here and there.

Overall 10 -15 points a game, 2 -3 steals, anything over 7 assists and I am okay with that. I dont think that's too lofty expectation. I can see him having plenty of 10 plus assist games if mchale lets him penetrate.

 

IBTL - great take.

The thing about Lin as a point guard is that he has great height, is both quick and fast, a sturdy body, good court vision, good work rate, excellent work ethic, excellent intelligence, high character and is mature. Basically he is the complete package.

Everything else is just practice and coaching. And Lin is still young.

 

I can't agree more. But the team looked good without Lin on the court and still runed smoothly in the playoff last season. That's why I am kind of scared that this team may not need Lin's dribble penetration that much.

I think as long as Rockets have Harden, Lin's primary job is not to penetrate and score but to make plays and shoot open 3s. And that is just the way how it is.

In my opinion, Jeremy just need to drain down those wide open shots not only 3-pts but also mid to long ranges. He will be open more with Dwight in the paint.

But I will be thrilled if Lin proves me wrong. I will be thrilled!

 

be very careful mentioning kidd (or any other all star player past and present) and lin in the same post. that's a greater sin on this site then anything else you can post, and i mean ANYTHING.

that being said, i do agree that he should look to feed others first and foremost, and that's why he would work with with harden and dwight. free up harden to focus on scoring and scoring only. he even mentioned early last season that it's an adjustment for him to figure out when to look for his own shots vs. when to be a facilitator.

personally i think last year was as tough a year mentally for a pg as you could have - you're asked to play the pg role, while not really being the sole pg on the team. it's tough to figure out and be comfortable with what you're role is when it was so ambiguous but all in all i think he did pretty well in that aspect.

he should be involved as a pg. period. a facilitator that help get howard and parsons their shots (harden can get his own). if he's having a good shooting night (and you know in the first 5 min whether or not you'll have a good shooting night) then he should look to score. but he should first and foremost look to be the PG on the team.

 

Precisely.

divisive people like to make it about lin vs. harden or something weird like that. I am okay with Harden iso here and there.. but having lin play the role of table setter ..and making life easier for harden is what this offense should be about. Lin as facilitator to harden and howard is pretty awesome.

Its making life easier for harden/howard with lin penetration, rebounding and defense from howard, pick and roll howard and or harden, and parsons harden casspi williams brooks beverly for 3. That simple

 

OK

Lin just needs to be more efficient when the ball is in his hands. Not just scoring but other facets of play.