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Blazers GM and Aldridge camp met to discuss trade scenarios

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Carl Herrera, Jul 18, 2013.

  1. meh

    meh Member

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    And pray tell, which likely lottery team would actually want to give up an unprotected lottery pick to the Blazers for Aldridge, knowing they'd still be in the lottery following the acquisition?

    I don't know if he'll be traded to the Rockets. But if he were traded, I can guarantee you there's the best draft pick Portland can get not be in lottery on paper, meaning the team has to totally underperform for them to get a lottery pick.
     
  2. PullUpJ

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  3. duluth111222

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    You very lilarious, you.
     
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    I'd still want them to add Leonard Meyers into a deal
     
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    Me too, but when you have guys like Zermey Lin out there, you could always sign them up on a smaller contract.
     
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    I'm sure you're really good at many things, but devising NBA trade scenarios isn't one of them. This is LOL.

    Though I am a huge fan of Hilliard.

    Dr. Janice Hilliard, Director of Player Programs for the NBDL. She's done great work.
     
  8. A_3PO

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    I was just trying to say how unlikely it is for the Rockets to trade for LMA. Just ain't gonna happen with what they have to offer the Blazers, who want something legit in return for LMA instead of Asik + pixie dust.
     
  9. tehG l i d e

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    Could you see something like this possibly getting done? Bucks and Jennings don't seem to be getting along.

     
  10. meh

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    Yes, and Presti wanted Bradley Beal for James Harden. Washington says thanks but no thanks, we want a young stud SG for $4mil instead of $15mil. Now add 5 years to Harden, remove all his potential, and make him slightly better(not-quite all star to borderline allstar) and ask Washington the same deal. And see how hard their GM laughs at Portland for trying something like this.

    Aldridge's deal will look more similar to Howard's deal, some middling prospects and lottery protected 1sts, rather than any one significant piece. Which is basically what the Rockets can offer once they trade Asik to a playoff caliber team(for middling prospect and a lottery protected 1st). Then the Rockets offer Jones/DMo, some other team's decent prospect, our own 2014/2016 picks, another team's #1, and perhaps come up with another 1st rounder by trading some of our 2nd rounders.
     
  11. Spacemoth

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    Aldridge up till now is significantly better than Harden was up until last year. The primary piece in the Howard deal from LA was Andrew Bynum, not the picks.

    History loves to be revisionist, but the fact of the matter is that we took a gamble in trading for and giving the max contract to Harden. Critics around the league panned the deal, saying OKC made off like bandits and that Harden would never be able to produce the way he did, off the bench, with Durant and/or Westbrook to take away the brunt of the attention, thrust into a leadership position which up until that point no one had ever seen him take on. He was a quiet, mysterious guy with a beard that people joked he looked like a terrorist for wearing. Yes, Bill Simmons was against the trade for OKC. But right after it was consummated he was calling it a "dollar for four quarters" trade; now he calls it a "dollar for one quarter and a couple dimes".

    Again, history loves to be revisionist. We won the bet and doubled down. OKC is reeling now. And people around the league watched. I don't know what it will take to get Aldridge, but all it takes is one team out there to offer more.
     
  12. Aleron

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    It's what the team trading away the player that matters, not what the team acquiring the player gives up, you have to look at Orl in, out to see what value they got for him.
     
  13. A_3PO

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    Different situation from OKC. Presti was under the gun and had a deadline in order to give the other team time to sign Harden to a max extension by Oct 31st. Portland won't be ready to panic over LMA until next summer or the Feb 2015 trade deadline. I doubt they hang on to him that long, but you never know. If the Blazers are on track for the playoffs next Feb, they may keep him just to accomplish something for the season unless another team blows them away with an offer they can't refuse. Either way, I doubt they would accept a glue, paper clips and rubber bands like Presti did before the season starts.

    I guess if anyone could pull off a 3-way deal for LMA, it would be Darryl Morey. Since several other teams could use LMA, I doubt the Rockets will offer the best package.
     
  14. meh

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    Actually, teams would've signed Harden for LESS if they didn't meet the deadline. The 5 year deal Morey gave Harden was actually more than what Harden asked for, which was the 4yr regular max.

    LMA's market value decreases by tons by next summer. The Blazers really only have 2 options, keep him and hope he re-signs, or trade him now or at latest the deadline. By next summer, LMA can basically tell Portland to trade him to team X or he'll sign with the Knicks or some other team in 2015.
     
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    This is hugely debatable. Harden's PER in OKC last year was 21.1, while LMA last year was 20.4. And his personal best was 22.7. Per-36 Harden was 24/5/5 last year. Aldridge was 20/8/3.

    And in GARM, I made a therad about how Morey should go after a 3rd star, and many people feel paying LMA $16mil/yr is too much and we don't need him. Portland also sucked horribly these past two seasons. Heck, they've been much worse than the Rockets who had no stars. He's also known to be soft and takes too many jumpshots. Portland fans don't really feel like he's a difference maker.

    Oh, and he'll be 28 next season.
     
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    the taking jumpshots is ok for us as we have dwight

    i think lamarcus will do wonders for us and our team really fits him well

     
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    All you need is Love.
     
  18. A_3PO

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    Harden's salary had nothing to do with anything. The point is his trade value to other teams would have gone down had OKC held on to him past October 31st. Allegedly, Harden wanted more time but Presti didn't give it to him. The Rockets wanted to clinch an extension with Harden before executing the trade. Presti was up against the wall.

    Which is exactly why the Blazers are NOT desperate in the summer of 2013. They have 7 months until the pressure comes. When other teams get serious, a trade will happen on the Blazers terms, not LMA's.
     
  19. errpac

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    Don't think thats enough

    Think about your franchise player like Harden and another team offers you a bunch of role player and 2nd round pick. Thats the trade you offered.
    Its going to take both Asik , Parson, trade picks, and we can probably package Lin for this to be more what POR is looking for and even that might not be enough. If they agree then we have to pull the trigger, even though I really like Parson, Asik and Lin. However LA is worth it.
     
  20. daywalker02

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    It does not matter if Aldridge has been better than Harden PER wise somewhere in the past but if he can help Harden and Howard win a title
    #Allthatmatters
     

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