I'm glad people are attacking my rankings with intelligent arguments and not name-calling. People hate Lin because his fans are annoying (and I agree 100%), but the reality is people tend to overrate small sample sizes and underrate progression through the season (if you eliminate Lin's first two months, he was pretty good this season, not to mention his upside). Unfortunately, people conflate his ridiculous fans with his on-court performance. I understand the nostalgia from the 2009 playoffs, I loved that team too. And don't get me wrong, I like this signing and I like Brooks. He's had some great moments as a Rocket. To call Brooks a "capable starter" at this point is, frankly, absurd. Backing up your disagreements without calling me a "r****d" (seriously, we're still tossing this word around?) would be nice.
Average efficiency is probably more accurate. He had a TS% of 54.9, slightly above the league average of 54.3. His problem was his lack of versatility, with his 3 point shot not falling he was basically useless on the court (especially given his atrocious defense).
You probably are, and the fact that you chose to use size (while we all know it is important) into factoring your response says a lot too. I don't have the time to explain something so obvious (you'll see the rest of the responses in this thread even from people that weren't big fans of his) but just replace those other people with him in 09, since it said in their "prime." AB was the second best player on the squad that gave us our only playoff win (and almost 2nd with the lakers) in over a decade and a half. Yes, after Yao he was the best player in the Portland series and mismatch with Blake. If you couldn't even see that from his stat-line it was plainly obvious from watching the games. If Portland wasn't enough to prove it to you than the Lakers series was where HE WAS the best player on the team since Yao got injured. So ask yourself this. Replace AB that year with those other players and try to say with a straight face the outcome would have been the same or better. His speed and scoring was the biggest asset and matchup nightmare for the other teams. That is why it is so downright r****ded to say that those players are better than prime Brooks.
Lin is a capable starting PG and Brooks wasn't? He was MIP and avgd 20ppg for a season, so that is pretty indicative. You'll see the general consensus around the league about how "capable" Lin is, and I am not talking about buthurt Knicks fans. I pray for the best when it comes to Lin, but by no means is he a starting PG.
Maybe? Using a counter-factual to prove your argument isn't really a good response, since it is impossible to know what would have happened. I said Brooks was overrated, not that he was a bad player.
So you feel there is need to call out folks morons and r****ded because of a 3rd string PG? Good luck with your argumentation. In the NBA you have to be consistent for 2, 3 seasons. Otherwise it's somewhat a fluke and you won't get paid much. A disadvantage was the shortened season when he could not prove his worth. Brooks is still a very good shooter and a speedy guard. No one denies that. He is just limited.
I didn't have a problem with you saying that he was overrated. Look at my response. Using a counter argument is fine when it is so lopsided. I can say that Yao was a better player than Kaman by asking you if we would have beat portland by replacing him on the team. How good you are as a player can be interpreted in the context of how much you help your team. Brooks helped his team and was better than Lin and Bev. by a substantial margin. You said that Lin and Beverly were better than Brooks in his prime. Dragic and Lowry were good and I can't say anything about that. Opinions regarding that will differ and everybody can make some sort of solid case...but Lin and Beverly?
lol at this idea that Lin is no starting pg. in his first year starting he was an average starting pg if you account for the knee injury. only place to go is up. that said i also see the merit of him coming off the bench as a sixth man but thats more due to fit than anything.
How nice that we have a speedy point guard with past playoff experience with above average efficiency for the vet minimum, eh?
League average includes guys like Omer Asik who never take shots outside the paint. You need to look at league average exclusively for guys who take a bunch of 3s.
LOL - what evidence do you have that he lost his speed at 28 years old? None, yeah, right, thought so. DD
