Tmac 4 MVP!!!!!!!!!!

TMac? Who dat?

 

has playercentral even watched any NBA team for at least 3+ years?


duncan carries his team as much as kg and tmac do, and his team has a better record.

very weak take.

id rather have a boring guy playing in texas be the mvp than some guys up in the east and a guy who cant get his team out of the 1st round of the playoffs.

 

Tracy McGrady is Michael Jordan circa 1984-1987.

The only person even close to Duncan for MVP is Garnett

 

All your credibility went out the window with that line...wake up man, look at the records of east v west and vice versa. The east sucks, if the magic were in the west they would be no better than Golden State right now...at best. Tmac is awesome, but TD or KG have the MVP...hell how can you give the MVP to someone whose own teammates and coach were saying "he takes some plays off, especially on defense..." Yeah, real MVP material there.

 

Tracy McGrady is more like Dr. J then he is Jordan.

 

Hey, MagicFan, what happened to Drew Gooden last night?, letting Kenny Thomas get 20 boards won't get your team too far.

 

Put Duncan or Shaq on that Magic team instead of McGrady, and do you really think they would be struggling to make the playoffs in the East?

 

No, but that's only because big men are so scarce in the East. Put A.I. or Kobe on that team, and they're still struggling.

 

excactly. so bryant iversn and mcgrady aren't MVP, duncan or Garnett are

 

I think RM95 is saying that The Magic would be worse with Kobe and AI, and duncan or Garnett wouldn't make a huge improvement if any on that team.

So exactly, that's why McGrady should be considered.

 

You put KG, TD or Shaq on Magic and subtract T-Mac they are a better team. You subtract any of those three and add T-Mac to those teams and they are worse. KG, TD and Shaq's team (when he is healthy) have much better records in much more competive conferences--they have a greater overall impact on the game than T-Mac or any other contemporary elite guard (Kobe, AI or Kidd).

However because Shaq has missed so many games he is out of the MVP race. Right now it should be neck and neck with KG and TD--I give TD the nod because his team has had a substantively better record--but if KG's team only finished a couple of games behind and one seeding away (#3 versus #4) I might lean towards him. Either team without those two guys would be worse than all the teams except Denver or Cleveland--considering they are top 6 teams with those guys that is mighty impressive.

T-Mac, Kobe, AI and Kidd are all fighting for the 3-4-5 slots in the MVP race.

 

It doesn't have anything to do with big men being scarce, it's because Shaq and Duncan are better players. I never said Bryant or Iverson are MVP candidates.

 

like he did last year against charlotte when he talked **** and couldn't back it up?

TMac is not more valuable than Duncan or KG, and doesn't deserve the mvp.

 

Actually take away Shaq, and replace him with T-Mac and I'd find it a very interesting matchup for any team to face the likes of Kobe and T-Mac. It would appear to be strikingly similar to the like of Pippen and Jordan. I dunno which one would play the Pippen role, but both would definitely contribute a ton to their team, and would cause problems for any team with a 6'8 guard, and a 6'9 small forward.

 

all i know is that this season should put to rest all questions about whether kobe is better than TMAC.

tmac is, by far, the greatest non-big man in the nba.

 

This shows how little you remember ventage Jordan. Your example would be more like pairing Scottie Pippen with Clyde Drexler--and that would be a good team but not an NBA championship quality team.

If you honestly believe the Spurs would be better with T-Mac than TD there just isn't much to debate. Parker, Rose and Bowen would look plain ordinary without TD--and Ginobili, Smith and Jackson would just plain suck. It is TD that opens it up for all those guys, with TD drawing doubles they often don't have any body guarding them and with TD anchoring the defense they can overplay--without TD a Parker if hot might have to contend with double teams instead of zero teams and each defensive mistake on the perimeter would be punished. I would guess if TD went down for a year the Spurs would have trouble winning 30% of their games--it is not like they have even Grizzlie or Clipper talent after TD.

 

Tracy Mcgrady is a fine basketball player, but he is not on the same level that Tim Duncan, the best player in the game, is, sorry.

You talk about carrying a team, well Tracy had Mike Miller for most of his tenure in orlando, also a solid pg in Darrell Armstrong, and he plays in the Leastern Conference, or commonly known as a sea of mediocrity. And he hasn't led his team out of the 1st round yet. Now he still has DA, plus a legit big man in Gooden, and a slightly lesser version of MM in Giricek, and the record hasn't improved drastically.

Tim Duncan has an over the hill David Robinson, an upcoming pg in Tony Parker, a young but showing flashes sg in Ginobili, and veteran role players like Rose, Bowen, Ferry, and Willis. And Armstrong is close to parker's ability right now, and Miller is more polished than Manu, who is good in his own right. Also, his team plays in the rough and tumble Western Conference, home of teams like the Kings and Mavs, who can explode for 120 at any time any night at will, the 3 time defending champion Lakers, and the enigmatic but talented TrailBlazers.

The Least? Philadelphia who is playing the best ball in the conference would be at best a 6th or 7th seed in the West based on record, but guess what I bet they don't make the playoffs if they had to flip their current eastern platter with the schedule of a western conference team.

Also Duncan's team is 54-20, and in striking distance of Dallas for top dog in the West. Mcgrady's team is hovering around 500 and in a tight race for the 7th seed out east, which would mean no playoffs out east.

Also, do you forget Tim Duncan is the reason the Spurs have an NBA championship, and they lost to the


3 time defending champion Lakers last year 4-1. Who did Mcgrady's Magic lose to? The New Orleans Hornets, who were without Jamal Mashburn.

Nice try, but the former is more impressive than the latter.

It seems to me you identify with Mcgrady so heavily because you like the streetball kind of player, not the nonsense consistent dominating player, like Tim Duncan. That's ok, it's your opinion, but it doesn't make it right.

And P.S.:

Drew Gooden doesnt hold a candle to Yao Ming in the ROY race, sorry.