MLB- Fearless predictions

Can we get some of Bonds steroids to Hidalgo?

DD

 

The obvious problem with your statement is that there is more involved in MVP voting than numbers. The last two AL MVP awards have shown that pretty clearly.

Incidentally, Babe Ruth only won 1 MVP award in his whole career.

 

Yes. The only problem is that there is no such a thing as 100% certainty in sports. Thats why they play the game.

 

And no one is claiming that there is 100% certainty in sports, so why bother to ask things like "So am I correct in saying that Randy Johnson is a 100% certainty to win the Cy Young award?" ?

 

Because Poodle 4 was insisting that I was wrong.

 

Lance Berkman was by far nuch better than Pujols...more homers, rbi's, runs, etc. Pujols was just a better avg. hitter, and had more votes than berkman because the Cardinals made it to the playoffs. Berkman wasnt that far behind in votes either. If the Astros make the playoffs, the MVP race will be between Berkman and Bonds

 

I am rooting for Shane Reynolds, but man will it be the puts if he is Comeback Player of the Year.

 

No, Poodle 4 was insisting that it is silly to bet against Bonds.

 

a.k.a. I was wrong in thinking that Pujols is a candidate. It is not a 100% certainty that Bonds will win. That is my point and Poodle Boy wasnt accepting that.

 

boo yah, griffey is going to tear it up for us this year!!!!! your going down Houston!!!!!

 

The MVP is the sum total of your offensive and defensive contributions to your team. And don't mention the AL - the AL MVP is a joke, and has been since 1995.

I am well aware of this. I am also well aware of the rule that prevented players from winning more than one MVP award. I am also aware that it was Ruth's career that made baseball change that rule.

Cause you were. You said Pujols was an MVP candidate, he wasn't. No one besides Bonds was a candidate the past two years - he's been so much better than everyone else, it's Ruthian.

You were wrong in thinking Pujols was a candidate last year.

And it's silly to predict anyone besides Bonds will win the award, considering how good he's been, and the lack of dropoff in performance for Bonds. It's not a 100% certainty, I wasn't saying that. But given how dominant Bonds has been, it's pretty ridiculous to predict against him.

 

Poodle, there will eventually be a time when Bonds will not win the MVP. This upcoming year could be it. If not this year, then next. If not next year, then the following year. How could you possibly put a time frame on that. Pujols could very well win it this year.

 

Originally posted by Puedlfor
The MVP is the sum total of your offensive and defensive contributions to your team. And don't mention the AL - the AL MVP is a joke, and has been since 1995.

You define MVP and then dismiss half of the last 14 awarded because they don't fit into your definition. Sounds like you have a bad definition.

I am well aware of this. I am also well aware of the rule that prevented players from winning more than one MVP award. I am also aware that it was Ruth's career that made baseball change that rule.

That rule didn't stop Walter Johnson from winning two MVP's during Ruth's career.

 

I think I'd just state it this way, if Bonds hits and plays in as many games as he did the last two seasons than no one else is a candidate, but if he starts to trail off or gets hurt than it's anyone's award.

 

My definition is on the MVP Ballot. It's not my fault the MVP voters didn't read their ballot.

Walter Johnson's MVP in 1913 wasn't actually an "MVP" award. It was the Chalmers Award, trying to recognize the most valuable player in the league - they gave him a free car. Because it WAS AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT AWARD(this is important.), he was eligible to win the League MVP award in 1924.

The League took over MVP voting for the 20's, and allowed a player to win only once, then changed that rule in 1929 after realizing that the one mvp to a player rule was really, really silly. Hornsby won two MVP awards.

The the Baseball Writers Association of America took over in 1931, and the MVP award is awarded based on the same standards that it is today.

 

Actually, if one were to bet Bonds vs. the Field for the MVP, most people would bet the Field. And of the candidates not named Bonds, Pujols and Berkman are the most likely candidates, given their age and past performances. I would hardly think that Pujols is a bad pick.

 

I think SI is just going for a sensible yet highly unlikely pick to stir up controversy, myself.

Barry Bonds is so far ahead of any other hitter in baseball it isn't even funny.

The man has had a plus .500 obp, and high .700-800 SLG% the last two years.

That is Ruthian like.

This is like comparing a Lamborghini or Ferrari to a nice quality sports car like a Lexus or Infiniti. Both are good, but one is just worlds better.

 

Lets make a deal.

Lets bet $100,

I say Bonds doesnt win the MVP this year. Who wants to bet against me?

 

Ineresting stuff. A poll on ESPN listed the CANDIDATES for MVP.

Bonds 39.3%
Guerrero 23.7%
Sosa 16.5 %
Thome 15%
Johnson 5.3%


Over 60% of the people feel like Bonds will not win MVP. What morons.

 

berkman deserves to be right up there...