I wouldnt be putting Patrick Beverly, Brooks, and Lowry in the same sentence. One is a legitimate proven PG, one is just good defensively with lots of energy and one is just way undersized to defend. Just being good defending does not make you a PG, in fact superb defense is not necessary for a superstar pg ala Parker and Curry, you need to be smart, competitive, able to score effectively and lead a team and be the floor general when needed. It just happens that the Rockets have a SG that decided to do the PGs role as well but that is fine since we have SFs like Durant and LBJ running the point. i think depending on the coach, the pgs job changes. I agree that the pg position could be voided on this team due to zMcHales system vs a that is more PG oriented like the Spurs, GSW, Lakers.
Mario Chalmers and Mike Conley were the same way in their 1st couple season. The youngsta will improve.
It would be more insightful to compare, for example, a win-share-per-dollar vs guys around the league. Or at a minimum, some metrics of points + assists per dollar. Comparing him to the primary box stats of 3-4 other guys doesn't do much.
The answer is not "of course not" and "definitely not". Those are just your opinions and no one knows for CERTAIN unless it actually happens. The Knicks and probably most people were pretty sure he wouldn't get the offer he did last year, doesn't mean it didn't happen. My point is that trying to gauge whether some one earned their pay by basing it on what your opinion of what you think the market is going to offer now is an inaccurate way to measure it since everyone has their own differing opinions. The only relatively objective and accurate way to judge is to compare it to other players who were paid around his payscale and played the same position. And if you do that, he definitely earned his salary last year.
The market price is the most anybody will pay you. It's very common to get a much bigger offer from one team.
I think Lin is paid commensurate with his talents, which means he doesn't have a ton of trade value, but he's not a bad contract either.
I can believe people has so little to do in there life, so keeps talking about other people's salary. Look, it is Les who owned team and He pays at what he thing is alright. Does anyone in their work trying to dig out the salary co-worker and then tell their boss if the co-worker's salary is high or low?
As Rocket fans, we've just been spoiled by the number of good contracts Morey has collected. It's not the norm in the NBA.
Conley didn't live up to his draft position and contract after so many years of underperforming...young players can improve and that's part of their value.
Actually, I am 99% certain. 1. Last year Jeremy Lin right after Linsanity's highest FA offer was 3yr/$20mil from one team, the Rockets. That Rockets team had nobody on it. It was full reclamation project. So they outbid THEMSELVES to 3yr/$25mil because they were afraid the Knicks would match. 2. This year the Rockets have James Harden, Dwight Howard, and a PG that started well in the playoffs making <$1mil. They are not nearly as desperate. 3. Past year Jeremy Lin's production was not nearly at the level of Linsanity, coupled with a horrible playoff performance. 4. This year guards with much gaudier numbers than Lin are getting less money. So no, Lin would not be worth 3yr/$25mil on the open market this year.
First off, Lin got a restricted free agent offer which is different than a free agent offer. It doesn't matter who the Rockets outbid, even if it was themselves. The point is that the Knicks and most everyone else were 99% or more sure that no one was going to offer Lin what he ended up getting. But just because that was their OPINION doesn't mean it didn't happen. Again your stating your OPINION as truth, which is ludicrously arrogant. If you really know what every GM is thinking and what value they put on every player. Well then your in the wrong line of work.
None of those guys had to play with Harden last year. Just watch the drop off of Nash playing with Kobe and get the reality of it. Accept Calderon none of those guys played as good as Lin did in the second half of this past season. None of those guys will improve as much as he will. And none of those earned as much money for their team by far as Lin did. Not even close plus the reality is we paid Lin 5 mil last year not 8.3. he might not even be here by the time he gets that 15 mil. He hasn't cost us any luxury Tax money and if he ever does by the time that comes he will have more than earned it. I am not a Lin only fan. I would happily trade him for Rose, CP3, Deron Irving and a few others but all of those guys are max players. I find people stupid to hate on Lin so much because he is make a few extra dollars. Morey said Lin contributes more for wins than Parsons or anyone else not named Asik or Harden. It's not your dollars and no one forced Les to do the deal and if Morey wouldn't have let him go Lin could be on a Parsons like contract right now. So what's all the whining and b****ing about. If Lin wasn't signed we could have offered a ridiculous contract to teague instead but that's really not much better. Lin will be way overpaid by the end of his contract but until then let's just enjoy this Rocket team.
As fans, you should quit whining and b****ing about your team players' salary. You should be appreciative that, at least your team made the playoff this year by their collective efforts and wish them a better next season. Plus, all your salary BS will not change the fact it is not your money and Jeremy will stay here and be the starter of line up.
So what can you do? Cut his contract short? Or if you know better then Morey to get someone cheaper and plays better than him? Geee. SOme of so called Rox fans are the most un-appreciative ones I had seen among NBA teams. They like to follow some stupid player's comment about other players "ridiculous contract" while their own salary is even more ridiculous .
Yeah I don't know what Cuban was thinking with the Calderon pay off or the Spurs for that matter offering Splitter 36mil for 4years. I guess I'll give lin a pass this year even though he should probably make around 5-6 mil. I mean J.R. Smith and Jamal Crawford are making only 6 a year and lin is no better at being a borderline starter/6th man than those two. Who knows though maybe lin will play up to his 8.5mil contract this year but the real question is who will be willing to pay 15mil next year for lin because I doubt Morey is that foolish.
No. But you can trade him. The Rockets just traded Royce White and stuff for nothing. The Warriors traded $20mil worth of dead salary and 4 picks for nothing. It is possible to get rid of salaries. Well, Morey does have a history of doing this. Case in point, Ariza for Lee trade.
The problem is that expectations were outsized. With no harden maybe he posts better numbers but we only win 30 games. He was signed to be a star and that hasn't happened. Some of that is on him and some is situation (adding harden). Everyone needs to chill - he isn't a finished product yet. I suspect he's shooting 500 three pointers a day trying to improve in the area where he is needed most.
