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Several Rockets will work out in LA with Dwight

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by RV6, Jul 11, 2013.

  1. RV6

    RV6 Member

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    I wasn't saying it was Harden's fault.


    I was saying the vision changed with the acquisition of Harden. The Rockets were set up to allow Lin to lead a bunch of young guys. They were probably prepared to lose a lot for a season or two. Getting Harden changed all that.

    You can't blame a team for giving the ball to a franchise player instead of a young guy still trying to find his game. It's no one's fault. **** happens.
     
  2. megadon

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    Casa Dolce is right, i do admit.
     
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    Focus on getting better and ignore the interwebz for the time being can do wonders.

     
  4. megadon

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    Your pictures were a bit immature. I did mismeasure you. Yes, my loyalties have changed that is correct. And inflectively, i do have to look at myself as well.

    I do think you were a bit harsh on Lin where I did not see the flaws in Lin you were pointing out. I read that is misleading for sure.
     
  5. cbk41

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    Anyone trying to perpetuate the McHale/Sampson conspiracy is board cancer.
     
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    I'm sure Dwight's displeasure of PnR stems from stupid offhand comments from the likes of Shaq, and others who claimed that he's not a "real big man because he doesn't dominate with back to basket". I'm sure once Morey shows Dwight the numbers, and how elite he is at PnR he'll be singing a new tune. As long as he's coddled, he'll buy into it.

    Plus, he didn't get many touches in the post because they had a better post option in Pau, so I'm sure the amount of touches factored into his displeasure. In our offense if our perimeter game becomes stale or they lock down our transition game, we can go inside out. If we were willing to give Asik touches in the post, we'll definitely give Howard some post ups (which he's not as bad as people think he is, last year was an outlier in his career)
     
  7. Yang_Wenli

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    Howard doesn't like running the PnR, but instead preferring playing in the post. I guess all those comments by Shaq and Barkley about him having no post moves really affect him.

    All I can hope is that since he's committed to the Rockets long term now, he will realize that PnR is his best weapon and utilize it more often, compared to his short stint in LA where he has the leverage to demand more touches.
     
  8. denali_wjl

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    Plan changing after a year is quite normal, I don't blame Rockets management if they do trade Lin. But if they do trade Lin, they might realize later it is a mistake yet again.

    I bet Lin is doing the kind of training he knows he need at this point, both physically and spiritually.

     
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    Chandler is the W on the team, whoever is the favorite son at the moment is his best homie.
     
  10. megadon

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    But, The franchise player is a SG and Lin was the PG. Lin should have handled the ball. And he is a better distributor with quickness and agility.

    Harden is a Bull and impossible to takedown, but he doesn't get his team-mates involved nearly as much as Lin.

    But it was more than that for sure. Lin was subbed in for TD at the most crunch and odd peculiar times. There was no excuse to let TD play 4th quarters or even OT against good teams. McHale would also bench Lin just as he was warming up. It was very bizarre at times.
     
  11. denali_wjl

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    Speak for yourself will ya? I don't think you can say "we hate the fans like you" unless you have an opinion poll to back it up.

     
  12. cbk41

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    When there are hundreds of million of dollars at stake, PR to keep up, jobs to hold on to, crews to manage, games to win, etc. no one in management/coaching has the time to keep up petty squabbles. It just doesn't make any logical sense that an entire organization kept putting 8.3 M of cap on the bench out of spite when they were trying to win games.

    It could of been poor decisions, yes. Every staff makes them. But the whole notion of conspiracy and hour long videos over analyzing post game pressers and quotes is clearly derived from fandom and defensiveness.
     
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    By "we" I was referring to the posters who have voiced there dislike for a certain type of Lin fan. I don't speak for everyone and I don't mean all Lin fans just a specific subset.
     
  14. megadon

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    It's fair to be suspicious. but no one has the proof to accuse McHale of anthing. I am very suspicious of his coaching behavior. And the fair level of slack McHale was given for the bizarre coaching decisions by the Houston Management. I can also blame Lin, and management for negotiating a contract that Houston would not be faithful and true to. and to Lin who was a big Naive towards the Policies and Politicking of the NBA.

    but your arguments are very well taken for sure.
     
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    please trade Lin to Orlando and take Jameer Nelson, Orlando is a laid back town and no one expects them to win so there will be no pressure on Lin compared to this championship team. Maybe a 3 team deal moving Jameer and Anderson for Lin and Asik and picks.
     
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    Are the checks not clearing? If the checks are going through than the Rockets are being every bit as faithful to the contract as they have to be. NOTHING but the money is guaranteed in the NBA, certainly not a players role.
     
  17. megadon

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    To be fair, If you trade Lin, you have to trade Lin for CP3, or Rondo. That level of talent. I don't see Nelson even in the same stratosphere as Lin.
    I saw Lin take Nelson to school when Lin was a Knick. I remember that well.
     
  18. JJHardLin

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    Since when is Lin on the level of CP3 or Rondo? wtf? I wouldn't trade Lin for Jameer as well but come on man. Lin is no where Cp3 or Rondo. Lin right now is average
     
  19. megadon

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    Touche again. But I was kind of implying the promises that Houston made to Lin when they offered him that contract. IMO, they should have never offered that contract if they weren't going to be true to the promises. That is my point. It's just not ethical business. But techically Houston is making every legal obligation it has to provide to Lin. on that technicality you are accurate.
     
  20. topfive

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    So you're mad because the Rox management didn't just hand Lin the keys to the team and say "Have fun"??

    Their job isn't to give JLin the best possible career he can have -- it's to give the city of Houston the best possible TEAM it can have. If Lin is good enough to warrant a spot in the starting lineup of that team, he's going to have to show it on the court.
     

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