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Do not need stretch 4 or 3 pt specialist

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by CARoxNut, Jul 11, 2013.

  1. Ashes

    Ashes Member

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    I always love seeing these advanced stats and analytic nuts calling the jump shot the worst shot in basketball. Give me a break.
     
  2. Aleron

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    Kevin Love's post game is ok, nothing special but he isn't a center... plenty of power forwards are face up players though, Bosh is another example, even going back to Sampson and the like, those guys aren't "stretch 4's". Love scores more points inside 10 feet than outside and his elite rebounding is why he's most certainly not a stretch 4, stretch 4 doesn't mean "can shoot long jumpers", Dirk sure as hell isn't one either.
     
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    But why do you deserve a break? If nothing else, the free agent market strongly suggests that GMs have sided with the "nuts." The 3 pointer is a better shot because, at the most basic level:

    (1) It provides more spacing--this is a simple matter of geometry; and
    (2) It's with 33% more points, but is not 33% more difficult to make in comparison to the mid-ranger.

    What are the advantages of the mid-range jump shot?
     
  4. Ashes

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    The advantages? It's an easier shot. Play some basketball.

    I guarantee any shooter would rather take a 2P to win a game than a 3P.
     
  5. liveguy

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    sounds to me like it's just more of a lost art.

    No reason why shots inside the 3 pt line would/should fall with LESS frequency than from further out other than piss poor fundamentals.

    Thats just pathetic if you think about it.
     
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    A 3 point jumpshot is a jumpshot. I know this may blow your mind, but if a jumpshot can get you 3 points instead of 2 points, that is a better jumpshot. You know, 3 > 2.

    If you watch the NBA, it's actually 48 minutes long. Not "whoever makes the first shot wins the game."
     
  7. liveguy

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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^this
     
  8. Dat Dude

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    So, a 3 ball from 3 feet behind the arc is a better shot than a 12 footer? Color me shocked.
     
  9. meh

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    It is a lost art. But that's only because it makes no sense to practice it. If you can make $5mil being a 3-and-defense guy by practicing 1000 3s a game, why would you become a $2mil 18-footer-and-defense guy practicing 1000 long 2s a game?

    The only players that benefit from having a mid-range game are star players, or shot creators in general. James Harden would be better with a pull-up jumper. Lin and Parsons too to a lesser extent. Players like Delfino and Garcia have literally no reason to ever practice a 18 footer. They spread the floor better and get more points-per-possession by standing behind the 3 point line.
     
  10. CheukLau

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    these are the best scorers in rox right now (players who has abilities to create their own shot). lin(pnr), harden(pnr, iso) and dwight(low post). they aren't very effective when they not attack the basket. this means we are really really really packed in the paint. that why we are looking for shooter/defender (bruce bowen would be a prefect fit).
     
  11. oakdogg

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    I don't think T Jones can be relied on to knock down 3 pointers consistently. Now, D-Mo totally sucked at shooting threes last year, but he at least does have form.
     
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    So you think it's possible to spread the floor and open up driving lanes and low-post positions by standing only 12 feet from the basket? That doesn't even work when I play pick-up basketball. And the guys I play with sucks.
     
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    D-Mo has the potential to hit that mid range shot, in fact he was able to hit some with ease. McHale pushed him out,to hit 3 pointers which is really not his strength.
     
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    It is only inefficient because it is a lost art....logic says the closer you get to the basketball the more efficient you are.Of course there are variables that come into play but it, at the moment, doesn't fit our style.
     
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    I totally agree with you. Morey hasn't played basketball,so he over relies on his stats.
     
  16. Sanity2disChaos

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    Some guys read "how to" books while others actually get on the court....smh....you gotta have played the game , at some success, to know the game at times. This is that time.
     
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    Maybe we need a stretch 3 and a 4 point specialist.

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  18. ttdestroyer

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    So true, we have so many shooters already.
     
  19. JBar

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    I disagree. Improving this team's offense is not as important as improving its defense , but the easiest way to make this roster's offense even more efficient is to get a good stretch 4.
     
  20. roslolian

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    What's actually pathetic is you have a lot of people here talking smack like they know anything about basketball.

    "Oh yeah DMOrey is a moron who relies on stats because he hasn't played basketball. "

    I mean, because being one of the greatest basketball players ever has made Jordan the best GM in the history of the league, right? :rolleyes:

    The fact is a lot of smart people have already thought about this and everyone agrees the mid range shot is worse than the 3 pt shot and shots in the paint. It doesn't matter what level you're in, rec league, DLeague or the NBA, that theory holds true at all levels. It's not just the analysts though, the best defenses in the NBA like what KG Celts and Spurs defend just the 3 pt line and points in the paint, leaving the mid-range relatively wide open. What does it say if the most effective defenses ever actually encourage taking these mid-range shots?
     

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