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Are the Rockets DH12's team or James Harden's team?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by typhooonn, Jul 11, 2013.

  1. CheukLau

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    i don't see harden, lin parson, nor howard is any thing close to an alpha dog.
     
  2. bloodwings19

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    This year, the media will label Dwight's team. Not because Dwight is older and has more accomplishments, but every NBA team he visits, the media will be looking for him than Harden to answer questions. Harden is not someone who will take questions and answers after every NBA game. In Dwight's mind, he is chasing a championship, not team leader.
     
  3. keldraco

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    whoever has the highest contract?
     
  4. Merovingian

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    Dwight: .492%
    Harden: .851%

    Next question?
     
  6. meh

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    I would say a Shaq/Kobe dynamic. So Howard for 3 quarters, Harden for the 4th. In a way it makes perfect sense. Howard gets his touches early to keep him happy. But in crunch time, Harden takes over while Howard focus on defense.
     
  7. LCAhmed

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    I see what you did there.
     
  8. Spacemoth

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    I'm sure the Rockets already have a sports psychologist on board to make sure nothing gets derailed because of poor team chemistry. One of the psychologist's notes might proceed as below (ignore if you are not familiar with the lingo):

    Lin - ISFJ
    Harden - INFP
    Parsons - ENFJ
    Dwight - ESTP

    In colloquial terms, what this means is that, of all our personalities with major roles on the team, Chandler's is the one most suited for leading the team and dealing with all the ego's. At the same time, Harden is an easy superstar to work with because he will do his own thing and not have beef with little tweaks here and there. Dwight is a bit of a goofball but a fairly benign one if you treat him the right way.

    Kobe on the other hand is a hardcore INTJ, and I dunno if that was intentionally or just because he was hellbent on mimicking MJ in every little way. But whatever he is now, what he has become, is just an intolerable ego to manage with no boundary to his own confidence and sense of entitlement. I mean, that's how he got to where he is today; INTJ's are usually very successful in life. But with a guy like Dwight? No way in hell would that work. Oil and water. Just by not having Kobe in our lockerroom will be a huge boost to Dwight's morale.

    Our team chemistry was superb last year, and I think it should do just fine incorporating a guy like Dwight into the fold.
     
  9. nejyh

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    The right to be the alpha dog will be won on the floor.
    Fortunately enough for us, they do like each other, so they will be looking to make each other star on the floor, and the media and fans will decide which one is the alpha dog.
    But as Yao once said regarding TMac the guard is a little bit at an advantage being that he does have the ball in his hands to close out the games.
    But Howard athletic gifts make him so spectacular, and worthy of highlight reels, it should be a close call...
     
  10. Rokman

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    Not sure where you got your info but I have THE book on braintypes by the man who wrote it and you have Jordan and Kobe's braintypes WAY off. Jordan is an ISTP "Serial killer" braintypes which is the elite athlete in all sports and Kobe is an ISFP which comes second. You are right about Howard being an ESTP but I think you are wrong about Harden.
    Harden appears to be an Introverted Thinker. Lin,appears to be an Introverted INtuitive. Think about it, Harvard? You are more than likelyan N. Especially with how much he over thinks out there on the court and gets caught up in his head at times.
     
  11. Haymitch

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    See the sig fellas.

    I really think that many in the national media have already forgotten just how good Harden is. I don't blame them too much since the Rockets were on national television last year about as often as Dwight wasn't.

    But if Harden plays like he did in the first half of next season? Get out of here. On a contending team he'll get MVP consideration.

    I said it in a previous thread on this issue, and I'll say it again: unless we acquire Paul, Durant, or LeBron, this is Harden's team.
     
  12. Panda23

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    They just pawns in DMoreys chess game
     
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    Call me crazy, but I think you are going to obsess over it more than Harden and Dwight. You will quit on Harden or Dwight the minute there is any adversity and start threads like this trying to rile people up. Watch and learn.
     
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    On a side note, if Howard cared nearly as much about being an "alpha male" like some people claims he does then he would have stayed in Orlando would not have gone to Los Angeles. He also wouldn't have considered Houston, Dallas, Golden State or Brooklyn, all team with established or blossoming superstars.
     
  15. OTMax

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    Good leaders don't care about their ego so they're both leaders. Their personalities actually are very a like, they both want to have fun, are not natural leaders but lead by example anyway cause they're so good. McHale is the true leader though ;)
     
  16. Spacemoth

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    I won't defend my background with anything more than to say that the information is all out on the internet. I encourage all Clutchfans to read about it as it can make for a fun hobby and useful system to consider in all aspects of your life. With regards to speedtyping people (which is what we're basically doing here), my strategy is to start with the component elements, come up with the four letter combo individually, and then correlate that to what you know or what you've read about common traits of people that share that particular combination. Like Cartesian coordinates it's all an arbitrary system that you can use or misuse for your own purposes, but it does prove repeatable among people that seem to play by the same rules.

    So let's go over points of difference. If you say that Harden is a T over an F then you mean someone who is more meticulous, truth-oriented, and contentious than he is capricious, agreeable, or compromising. Given his calm demeanor I could envision INTP, but I would think of an INTP more along the lines of Arian Foster. INFP traditionally is ascribed the moniker of "lone wolf", but I've known quite a few INFP who were also very compassionate, involved in their communities, and good leaders to boot.

    Lin is not N. Let me just put myself out there in saying I am staunchly in belief of this point. The fact that he went to Harvard says nothing about his N/S status. He is a low-key, benevolent traditionalist sort of guy who is not going to rock the boat unless he is REALLY put in a position where his values (such as his devotion to God) are challenged. It screams ISFJ to me, but I could also see ISFP or ESFJ (which incidentally is the least E of all the E-types).

    I didn't say anything about Jordan's type. I'm not sure about him. ISTP may work, as he is pretty boring when it comes down to it. I always put ISTP on my engineering friends because they were like INTP's with their weird hobbies, only without new ideas to add to the table. But Kobe Bryant is certainly not a P; the dead giveaway in his case is not just his ruthlessness, but rather his abject lack of a sense of humor whatsoever. Even when he tries you can tell he is a piece of cardboard. Bill Simmons pointed this out, but the most honest you'll ever see Kobe get is when he does that interview with Stephon Marbury, and he really lets his guard down. A couple times he tries to be funny though, and it just doesn't work. The man is a J through and through. I could see INTJ, ISTJ, even ESTJ, but no way is he an ISFP.

    Finally, there is no "elite athlete" personality type. It really depends on position. A QB like Tom Brady is absolutely helped by his ENTJ personality, but you will always need team players like ESTP's on the team too. Any personality can work, you just need to know how they will fit together in a team dynamic, and that's why there are professionals paid to do this work. I myself am not one, but I find it fascinating. I will freely admit my errors in thinking if anyone wants to spar with me. I'm all in it for the debate; I'll change my opinion if you convince me of it.
     
  17. rocketblaze

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    James Harden.

    Although D-12 should get his fair share of touches down low on the offensive end.
     
  18. boozle222

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    It looks like the ball has even fallen for CP
     
  19. Htownballer38

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    Here we go with this nonsense. SMH!!!! Why it cant be both players team, lol they are teammates right. Fans always get this sh++ twisted. ITS LES ALEXANDER"S TEAM.
     
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