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Zack Lowe Piece on Pelicans and why I think Asik to New Orleans is inevitable

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by HamJam, Jul 9, 2013.

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Should the Rockets trade Asik to Pelicans for Anderson?

  1. NO

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    39.6%
  2. Yes

    46 vote(s)
    12.6%
  3. Yes, but only if they get more than just Anderson.

    175 vote(s)
    47.8%
  1. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Ryan Anderson would be a nice 'fit'.

    However Ryan Anderson for Asik is a poor value trade asset-wise and thus it will not happen. (note sig).
     
  2. LabMouse

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    Morey will wait for a better deal in Feb because some teams are going to go to a rebuilding process by that time.
     
  3. greatpacha1

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    obviously i dont want to give up Asik, but if he wants out to be his own man, i dk if i can say he doesnt deserve it. Worked hard and wants to be the man. picking up anderson and a few other pieces is worth it in my opinion.
     
  4. TheRealAllpro

    TheRealAllpro Morey only fan

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    Btw no one is better than Asik other than Howard and Noah and that's at the second most important position
     
  5. fallenphoenix

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    marc gasol says hello
     
  6. iLookOK

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    The main reason for that, Delfino, is gone
     
  7. ivenovember

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    Dwight, Noah, Gasol and Hibbert are better for sure. Now, compared to their contract you may have a better argument.
     
  8. Hilarious

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    Please dont tell me you're serious :eek:

    Did you ever have a look at Mr.Anderson's Jekyll/Hide side?

    Mind you dont bother here is what I'm referring to:

    Mr. Anderson is
    Dr. Jekyll (well kinda)
    09/10 reg. season stats: 7,7 ppg (43,6-37-86,6%), 3,2 rpg, 0,6 apg
    Mr.Hide
    09/10 playoffs stats: 2,6 ppg (31!-28!-100%), 3,5 rpg, 0,3 apg
    Dr. Jekyll
    10/11 reg. season stats: 10,6 (43-39,3-81,2%), 5,5 rpg, 0,8 apg
    Mr.Hide
    10/11 playoffs stats: 4,7 ppg (26,7!-30!-100%), 4,5 rpg, 0,5 apg
    Dr. Jekyll
    11/12 reg. season stats: 16,1 ppg (43,9-39,3-87,7%), 7,7 rpg, 0,9 apg
    Mr.Hide
    11/12 playoff stats: 9,6 ppg (34,1-40-85,7%) 4,6 rpg, 0,8 apg

    so what i get from this is, he can't perform under pressure..this is fine when you're on the pelicans who won't have a sniff of the playoffs for a while. But this ain't the pelicans and you know whats worse than mediocre offense during reg. season and decent one during playoffs (Asik)? Yes, its great offense during reg. season but completely loosing your composure during the crucial time when it counts.

    Yes I know he shot 40% from the 3 in his last stint but if you cant see his trend in ALL 3 of his playoff runs where he had...oh wait yes he had D12 in the middle!!

    Trading Asik for Anderson is a complete waste of trade and would at best give you a better reg. season record and if he would accidentaly transform into Dr. Jekyll during June maybe a finals run. We would loose ANY possibility of getting LMA/Love and in my oppinion also any chance at the ship.
     
  9. pwnyxpress

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    Is it crazy that we have 2 of the top 5 centers in the league right now? That's insane lol.

    AND a top 3 SG? Who will probably be #1 in a few more yrs?

    Not to mention all our young prospects (including Parsons), any one of which could have a breakout yr...jeez.
     
  10. JuanValdez

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    I'd be okay with waiting for the trade deadline to trade Asik, but that comes with its own perils. Depending on how the season goes, teams may see we really need to trade Asik, and he might not have the performance during the season to justify a high asking price because he can't get the minutes. There's another, earlier opportunity toward the end of the offseason for teams that were not able to satisfy their big man needs by free agency or trades and will be willing to sweeten offers for Asik to have him in place in time for the season.

    When this was a developing team, I was more happy to keep a guy underutilized instead of accepting less in a trade. But, switching to Win Now mode, it's a cost you don't want to bear to have a good asset on the bench. Even if you trade him at the deadline, you've potentially hurt your regular season record which hurts your playoff seeding and hurts your reputation going into next offseason when you're looking for free agents.
     
  11. pwnyxpress

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    Whoah I never thought about this. Nice heads up. I assume the random commas are british commas? :p
     
  12. pwnyxpress

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    I used to be for trading Asik as well, but now I really wonder. Look at our depth!

    Lin/Harden/Parsons/TJones/Howard

    Bev/Canaan/Garcia/DMo/GSmith/Asik/Casspi

    Jeez! That second unit is scary. If TJones can step it up (or DMo) this season, we might not even be in need of a PF upgrade. If they are just good and not amazing, we can have a very complete and impressive lineup.
     
  13. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Those regular season VS playoff stats for Ryan Anderson are interesting. It would seem to paint the picture that he does not have that "extra gear" that is required in the playoffs. Sometimes that is the case with role players.
     
  14. Shroopy2

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    Probably Patrick Patterson woulda been a nice fit on this team in that spot, besides the spotty rebounding (though he'da probably been dealt anyway for getting Howard.)

    Outside shooters are generally more susceptible to getting neutralized in the playoffs, when the defenses tighten up.

    I don't try to take playoff numbers that seriously, talent is talent. But what good does it do having good regular season when in the postseason you make your team a liability from advancing. Gotta admit its a bit of a turnoff on Ryan Anderson
     
  15. ttdestroyer

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    +1 Ilyasova is a ninja ~ the guys motor runs deep.
     
  16. BEAT LA

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    Made it to page two. I can't read this ish anymore.

    Asik will not be traded for Anderson. The Rockets don't make trades based on needs and they are not about to start doing so now. Anderson is on a bad contract and he can't rebound. I would rather wait and sign Patterson than trade Asik for him.


    Do you guys believe:
    Lin
    Harden
    Parsons
    Anderson
    Howard
    are favorites to beat the beat the Heat and the Thunder? If the answer is no, then you keep Asik (the only real piece the Rockets have left) and try to find a clear upgrade.
     
  17. pass_to_Hakeem

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    He could be and that would definitely help him diwnlowcin the paint on offense but even at that he's not really proven to be that good on the Defensive side of the ball is more at what I'm getting at. He might do we on offense , be a lot quicker then "bigs" who guard him aLa Olajuwon being nimble and quicker than most who guarded him.. But on Defense is where DMo (IMO) would be lost... Olajuwon could jump and gobble balls up like little goodies!!
     
  18. pass_to_Hakeem

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    Oh I know they are completely different and that was my point . While DeAndre has hardly any offense (right now) I do not think DMo could guard/ stop him. DeAndre would have a fun night.. Again this is my opinion from watching every single game (including Summer League in Vegas) last year...
     
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    On DEFENSE..... Chuck Hayes would be a way better center then DMo. Hayes was solid as far as standing his ground and not letting taller/ more athletic guys get in position. DMo will be moved around and jostled around like a ragdoll
     
  20. pass_to_Hakeem

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    This place is highly overrating DMo and what he can do. He didn't do that much this past year so I don't understand it. Potential , yes BUT what he has done so far isn't that spectacular!! Lets just be REAL
     

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