Do you actually post about basketball these days, or is this the only reason you come to this website?
Fine, a good number. Just because a good number of Lin fans overrate him doesn't all Lin fans have problem. I mean, it makes perfect sense that this larger than life story would bring previously non-NBA fans in. One could hate and go like, "these people are not as knowledgeable as I am, they didn't join the sect as early as I did etc." and be snobbish and look down upon them as nuisances or one could appreciate and be like, "it's great that we gain more fans as a league, organization, team and community; even though they aren't so accurate in their evaluation now, they will probably get better as time goes on." Your choice.
I have never said all Lin fans ridiculously overrate him. And come on I could careless about when someone started following the sport. If they know what they are talking about it doesn't matter if they have been following for a year or 10 years. If you don't know what you are talking about you shouldn't be talking like you do. That simple. If they want to ask questions on realistic expectations to help them start to understand, by all means that's fine. Just can get annoying reading these posts that have no basis in reality.
^Perfect example of what frustrates a lot of ppl here. How can you accuse someone for padding stats when you know nothing about them? I think you're more obsessed about (Lin's) stats more than Harden will ever be about his own. 25/12, really? Either you just started watching basketball, or you really are that delusional.
See you can see sense also. So stop calling him a complete failure and trash . So ironic, the one guy which can click with him big time could be the cause for him to leave. Dwight howard
I found this ironic, because he starts out his reading comprehension/intelligence slam with "You are reading comprehension is really poor...".
Learn to use the ignore option and stop quoting them, hubiejames. These members don't like Lin and his fans but they keep coming into Lin threads...whining, moaning, complaining. It's always the same members. That's all they do, they're here to rile you up, best trolls around.
Dude, I've already told you before. I had to refrain myself from joining the forum years ago because I love b-ball posting too much and that interferes with other stuff I had to do. More importantly, your belief that frequent posting is negative sounds offensive to many posters here who love this place. As far as I'm concerned, if one does something because of one believes, loves or enjoys it is good, but if one spends a lot of time hating it's not so good. Let's say if a woman loves her husband, raises her kids well and right, it's good life and time well spent. But if one is a man-hater, enjoys screwing up multiple mens' lives and not giving love to one's own kids, it's not so good. Or maybe let's say Mandela, he spent many years in jail but it's not "no life", it's meaningful. Whereas a devoted KKK member does one no good.
I chose the Rockets, not because they have had the best teams or the classiest players but because they are from the city where was born and have lived my life. The second the Oilers moved out of town I no longer cared for them. That is how I select my favorite sports teams. If Houston gets an NHL team I will go immediately from watching maybe 2 hockey games a year to as many Houston games as I reasonably can. I don't pretend that is inherently more noble than choosing a team because you like a certain player for any reason...be it you admire him, he looks like you or he has a similar descent. After a number of years, I have become protective of what I consider to be "my" teams and will defend them and their players against other teams fans on the internet and at the watercooler at work. It means pretty darn little in the grand scheme of things. So if Jeremy should stay, I wish him well as a Rockets fan, but I am not going to be completely blind to his flaws though I might gloss over them a little as a Rocket's fan. If Jeremy goes elsewhere...I will care about him mostly when he plays the Rockets and I will hope he plays poorly for that game only, otherwise no ill will. If Lin Only Fans or people who are fans of the Rockets mostly because we have Lin or because we had Yao before him choose to be fans of his new team instead, that is fine...cause my reason for choosing the Rockets was equally shallow and arbitrary. I guess my point is it is o.k to take it a little personally when people rag on "your" guy. But being maniacal and obnoxious about it probably doesn't help.
I agree, and that's all good. We all are guilty of being homers and hyping up our favorite players. *cough* Bev.Dmo. (Guilty!). But once you start shifting undeserved blame or hating on other team members, on a team forum, you're going to lose empathy or support for you and whoever you're throwing everyone under the bus for.
Is Lin overpaid? Arguably yes. There are worse deals out there and 15/7 per 36 is pretty good. He showed a lot of improvement over the year and is young. The prospects for improvement are very good. Unloading his contract (or Asik) to improve the team is a perfectly logical and sane course of action. Unloading him to pay more for Jose Calderon is just plain stupid. Does Lin "suck"? Absolutely no. He is not some D-league scrub that some of you can toast one-on-one. Anyone who claims they can beat him one-on-one (actually happened on this board) is a possible racist. The reasons I've seen on this board to unload him have included: 1. his contract stands in the way of getting a third all-star. This is legitimate and makes sense. 2. we need a "championship calibur" point guard. This is fine if you feel this way. Just don't come back with "Bev should start" or "Ramon Sessions/Steve Blake/Jose Calderon/etc. is the answer" or "get Lowry or Dragic back". Those guys are NOT "championship-calibur" point guards. 3. He sucks and should be sent back to the D-league. This is just blatant trolling (I hope) or outright racism (I hope not). 4. He is a bad "fit" and all we need is a guy to sit in the corner and launch 3s. This if fine if you feel this way. Just don't combine this with "we need a championship point guard". I'm am Asian and but have followed the Rockets since the early 80s. I became a fan when Yao joined and because rooting for the NJ Nets for decades has ruined my life. So I guess I'm a YOF or LOF or whatever. This does not mean I think McHale and Harden are racists or that Lin would be averaging 25/12 if Harden got hurt.
Don't forget this one "Here are the top four scorers in their first four NBA starts... Jeremy Lin - 27.3 points per game Allen Iverson - 25.3 ppg Shaquille O'Neal - 25.0 ppg Michael Jordan - 24.8 ppg..."
I don't think you should worry too much. We've all seen how great him and Tyson Chandler played together. Unless Josh Smith agrees to take several million less than max (which he won't), I think Jeremy and Omer are here at least another year. I really want to see what kind of damage both can do with an awesome finisher like Dwight mopping up.
Please point me to the part in my post that isnt factual. Dwight has said that he felt misused by his coach. Isnt that the crux of any Lin argument? You sign a PG and then take the ball out of his hands. Please show me the all star PG that doesnt have the ball in his hands or initiate the offense. Show me any in the history of the NBA. Given Lin's usuage, shot attempts I would say he did alright. Lets not forget he shot better on the year than Harden. Statistically he is a better option shooting the rock than Harden anywhere on the floor. When you address Lins horrific start, that means he shot significantly better than Harden the rest of the season. Lin did just fine. He had some growing pains, but considering his usuage and role and constant benching I had no problem with Lins first year.
The LOF who said 25/12 obviously has had too many beers on this 4th of July holiday...but don't forget that when Harden was hurt for 4 games, Jeremy put up 21.5/7.3 on 60% TS, 3 games of which came against top 10 defenses, so it's not a stretch to think that he would put up all-star type stats on a .500 and below team. Doesn't mean he would be an actual all-star or the GOAT PG, hah...just that when he's the primary ball handler and has a 25+ usage rate, he can put up nice stats, but who knows if that type of effort would consistently make the playoffs, or go past the 1st round. In all honestly, it probably wouldn't, but then again, do any of us really know?
