ESPN Insider: Rookie Report "Yao" & "Nachbar", Rudy down on Nachbar?

UK switched to the Metric system in the 80s.

DD

 

Funny name? Is that ignorance or dry humour? I am sorry but I don't like the way that sounded - maybe you should mix in a little international travel into your future plans.

 

Hey.......don't take it so seriously.

The Sonics do have a lot of guys with uncommon names. So many Europeans!!! That's not a bad thing. They are loaded with good tall shooters.

BUT YES. I WANT RASHARD LEWIS.

 

Remember how a deal could not be made because Griff could not be included?

 

We could look at Boki's situation like this:

Let's say the Rox have a 1st round pick in the draft, and they pick Boki. When the season starts next year, our 1st round pick (Nachbar) will have an entire year of practicing, traveling with the team, and learning the NBA game. Even if he hasn't played hardly at all this year, he is still gaining a lot of experience. Maybe not game-time experience, but it is experience nonetheless.

I wish all rookie draft picks could have a year with the team before they actually have a chance to start logging minutes. The only thing Boki will have to worry about next year is playing ball. He is getting the homesickness, getting used to the travel schedule, etc. etc. out of his system this year while sitting on the bench. I never thought sitting the bench could be beneficial, but in Boki's case, it actually IS beneficial. I'll bet you that Rudy & the staff sat him down before the season and made it clear that he wouldn't get many minutes this year, so I don't think he was blind-sided by any of this.

Not only that, since we have a rotation of only 8-9 players, do we really want 2 rookies to take up 2 of those 8-9 spots? Only Denver and Cleveland could do that and get away with it. If we are trying to make a playoff push, then 2 rookies can't eat up 2 of the 9 spots. I think Boki will come on strong next year, we can count on it.

 

There is CURRENTLY a logjam at SF, but that doesn't mean there will be next year or that it will even matter for Nachbar. Here are a couple of factors:

1. Posey may not return. A lot will depend on his asking price. If he is affordable and wants to be back, he will be. However, if he wants to make big bucks, the Rockets will let him go because they are not going to eclipse the luxury tax threshold to sign him. If Posey does return, he is a different kind of player from Nachbar. They actually are complimentary of one another. Besides, it gives Cat more rest time because Posey can play the two or... (see below)

2. Rice will very likely be trade bait next season. Rice will be making a huge sume next season ($9 million) BUT he'll be coming off the cap after next season. Anyone who watched the free agent moves this year saw how motivated people were by the luxury tax and the desire to clear cap space for free agents. The Rockets will have a guy who could fill that bill.

3. Terrance Morris is, at best, a deep bench role player. He can play 2 positions meaning he doesn't always directly eat into the minutes at SF, but, more importantly, he just isn't a guy that you worry about when it comes to playing time or taking minutes. He is a nice role player but he doesn't even factor into the equation if Nachbar improves.

4. The Slovenian article posted in this thread mentioned that Nachbar has been playing the two guard in practice. Because of his skills handling the ball, there is no reason to think this isn't a real possibility if only in limited amounts. In some respects, he may be better equipped to guard guys on the perimeter than in the post anyway and he will certainly have advantages on the offensive end.

IMO, it is too early to speculate about where the team will be next season. There are way too many question marks at this point to figure that out.

 

Isn't T-Mo a free agent after this year. I recall we only signed him for 2 years since he was a 2nd rounder. Do we have to right to match any offer on him like we could with Cuttino? If not, I'm sure there are some teams that would love to have him where he can get more playing time at SF.

 

Yes, we can match any offer up to the MCE or early bird which is way more than he will be offered by any team out there.

 

but wouldnt that be the exact reason why the rockets will not trade him? when his salary comes off the books next year, we will be needing that 9 million to resign eddie and yao. if we trade him for someone than not only do we loose the 9 million in cap space, but we also get another dude taking up space (unless he too would be on the last year).

where does t-mo stand? someone said we only had him for 2 years, but i though 3 for some reason.

and what about posey? id say hes in a similar situation as kenny thomas was about this time last year. he may be the best of the group, but is also the most expendable. we should keep rice, for reasons mentioned above, nachbar isnt going anywhere (were not giving up on him w/out giving him a good look first) and t-mo is a good, cheap 10th man.

if posey wants to stay for less $$$ than he could get elsewhere than i say keep him. otherwise i bet he goes before rice, t-mo or nachbar.

 

Once Rice retires (within the next 2 years) or leaves (trade or signs w/ someone else) Boki will be the guy behind Posey.

I can't see Posey staying here for a long time though.

And also, should Cat go somewhere, Posey would probably play the 2, leaving the 3 open to Boki.

 

Hmm...yes Terence Morris is free after this season. I really hope they resign him! Steve will convince him to stay with us...hopefully.

I want them to resign Posey too!!!

Nachbar could play the 2. He is kinda small. He may be able to play the 2.

And I agree. Glen Rice is good trade bait. We can get something good in return. We can get some more. We don't really need any more small forwards...or centers...anything can happen. I guess we will just have to wait...for now....PLAYOFFS!!!

 

jo, i have to agree with you here. Unless the solution to all our problem comes up at trade time next year, i feel we keep rice because it frees up cap room for the future.

Jeff, with the undercurrent of rumours that steve will play two guard ( at least quite a bit more of it) next year, I think the idea of Langhi , cough cough, excuse me, Nachbar playing the two is far-fectched at best.

Therefore, i do see a similar problem with Nachbar's minutes next year unless they let glen ride the pine until his contract expires. And that may well be the case. If you figure t-mo is in his last year and that Nachbar is already in his second, they will want to see what they can get out of the players before the all star break, leaving Rice in a similar position to Taylor this year with the glaring difference being that a non playing Rice is still tradeable.

 

I didn't even mention the fact that if posey resigns he will be the automatic starter and taking up anywhere from 28-33 minutes per game leaving us in the same style logjam as this year.

 

This is a poor argument. If he was good enough to deserve to play ahead of the logjam, he would. Clearing out a logjam just so he can play, in essence then, is essentially just getting rid of a better player so that you can give a worse player more time.

The little time that Nachbar has played makes it impossible to know, but what I saw a lot of in the preseason and have continued to see throughout the season is that Nachbar's defense suffers due to poor (i.e. slow) lateral movement. If this is still the case (who knows?), I'd prefer he play the 3, where generally the players are slower anyway.

I wouldn't mind seeing Posey play the two more, though. He seems to be quick enough defensively (mainly because he takes big strides) to hang with 2's and threes.

 

Studogg:

Automatic starter? Say what?

Players of Posey's caliber aren't guaranteed positions. They earn them. More to the point, Posey isn't going to be offered a guaranteed starting spot by any contender. I'm sure, if he really wanted, he could find such a place on a team waiting for the Next Lebron James (feels funny, saying that).

Offer him an exception (whichever they feel is appropriate). IF he takes it... great... we've got a significant contributor who can play D and slash. If not... well, he's replaceable.

Of all the 3's in the NBA Conference Finals last year... I'd have to say Posey would rank dead last amongt all of them. He might be better than Rick Fox. Maybe. But, then, Yao and Steve are good... but they're not precisely Shaq and Kobe.

 

As soon as I saw that this guy listed the class of 2001 and not 1999 as one of the best of the decade, I knew not to take this info too seriously. 2001

 

Isn't that what was done for Griffin (and to some extent MoT - to improve from his injury) with the KT trade?

I don't see any need to re-sign T-Mo, unless it is really, really cheap, which it should be.

 

He doesn't deserve the time THIS YEAR. We don't know if that will be true NEXT YEAR.

 

so we are in the conference finals next year? what's more, why would a second year player who has had no playing time this year get the starting nod next? we won't even discuss tmo. Unless you think that glen would be the starter, yet it is obvious that rudy likes him coming off the bench.

I agree you only offer him the mce and I even question doing that. I am not sold on his game at all, my only point is that if we spend the money, he will be the starter. We have no player that is better at this point and even in wildest expectations boki won't be ready to start at the beginning of the year. What's more, if you spend money on posey, then you are essentially saying that you are not signing another three in the offseason.
Process of elimination my friend

 

That story is complete garbage. It is absolutely untrue!