Paul George is a smaller version of parsons with a little better perimeter D and more athleticism switched out for shooting. He'll be getting a max contract very soon, too.
Quick example http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1234515 http://www.nba.com/hoop/the_devil_is__the_dtails_2013_02_05.html
When I say Lin is an awful defender, I mean he often gets beat on defense. People go around him. If they can't get around him they use the P&R and get by him that way. I also measure a good defender based on how well they play when they are defending another person who is posting them up. Lin gets backed down there too. By the way, Jeremy Lin is 14th in the league in steals not 2nd. Just letting you know...
Yeah, can't believe he actually said that. And then just said because Bev played 22 minutes he must have been the one to stop Lillard. Did he forget the game was a blow out by the middle of the 4th and the starters didn't play after that. I don't remember Bev. locking down anyone. He couldn't against Westbrook or Reggie Jackson when he played starter minutes.
Haha...Bev played 22 mins so he must have been the one to stop Lillard. By that logic Jeremy played 34 minutes so he must have stopped Lillard more :grin:. I was at that game and Jeremy was hurt in 1Q and played the rest of the game wearing a sleeve. Then the next day they played in Denver and Jeremy was one of the few Rockets who showed up. The Rockets lost in Denver.
This is where you lose your credibility. If nothing else, Lin is an excellent post defender. Here are some examples: Vs. Kobe <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/ppNFQ-lF95g" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Check out the 6:09 mark <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/Hmh9Q4Mx73I" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Lin's D was the 2nd best in the Rocket last season. But he played all 82 games and looked tired since April.
Lin could not keep the energy level since April. It made his D worse and steals dropped. It happens to young players.
Wow. It's posts like these that I get most frustrated. It's obvious this man hasn't watched any Rockets games, or at the least, paid any attention to Lin's game, especially at the defensive end. Everyone, please stop hating on Lin, if you don't know enough to talk about it.
Similar cases are Dragic and Lillard who are the starters at their first full regular season. They both had strong beginning.
Lol! Jeremy's a bad post-defender now! Now, I know you didn't watch the games. Pretty much everyone on this board knows how great Lin is when he gets stuck with a big on him trying to post him up and failing. There must be someone with a lot of these vids. I even think there was a thread about this specific thing. So, this post pretty much sums up what I suspected from most Lin haters. Haven't seen him play, but they just don't like the guy because... he's not an all-star and he's named Lin.
They probably don't even watch or like basketball at all. Just saw Lin getting headlines and couldn't stand it.
Some of Lin's haters make valid points. Lin still has a ways to go and his weaknesses were clearly on display last year. But, most have an agenda. Their notions are pre-conceived and nothing, no amount of basketball games watched, or evidence in Lin's favor can change what they already think they know. I questioned LOHs' IQ in a previous post and probably it was in poor taste, but that's what I was talking about. In general, if you can't come to the correct logical conclusion even after a substantial amount of logical discourse (semi-logical, lol) and always end up where you started, you're not gonna go far in life. There are numerous Lin fans on here, some who devote a lot of time to basketball, like PhiSlamma (I enjoy his detailed youtube analysis segments), and many of us basketball nuts who've lived and breathed basketball all our lives (played in school, coached, spent too much money going to games, getting league pass, watching every game, playing ball at every chance), but it's like everyone of his fans are supposed to be basketball neophytes who worship Lin just cuz they like the hype. Guess what, if an inordinate amount of people who seem to be of sound judgement believe that a player has potential, there just may be something there.. It's by no means guaranteed, but many of us see that potential. Posters like the one above who insisted that "he judges player's defense based on how well they cover the post when they get switched," come on, that's a bold face lie/justification to hate on Lin. So, now that we've covered that Lin is actually surprisingly excellent when covering the post, do you really believe that now he's going to tout Lin's defensive prowess (he did say that's what he judge's defensive ability by)? No, of course he's not. In a week or two, he's going to be in another thread, saying the exact same things about how Lin just gives up when he sees a pick or how he can't guard the post, after having erased these facts from his mind. Just to clarify, there is nothing wrong with NOT seeing potential in Lin. There's nothing wrong with wanting him off the team for a player you think would be better for our team. There's nothing wrong with criticizing Lin's weaknesses. There's even nothing wrong with not wanting to support him, though he is our starting pg (don't know if he'll still be here, but..). On the other hand, there's nothing wrong with seeing Lin's potential. And there's nothing wrong with calling out r****ded haters who don't function in a world based on logic and discourse. And there's nothing working with defending Lin and trying to disprove ridiculous hateful assertions made against Lin! Yes, he probably would not care what we say, but I personally don't suffer fools well, and can't let rampant idiocy run amok on one of my favorite places to chill. And please don't say Lin fans call everyone racist, think McHale hates him, and that they can't see Lin's weaknesses, and think he's an all-star, and all those other beaten down ignorant comments. It's tiresome.
As much as I might like to continue to talk about this subject, that's probably about it for me for now. A couple of people gave me negative reps the other day for some things I said in here. I accept that. I hurt my writing shoulder the other day very badly, and I think that injury has left me a little more short-tempered than usual. I apologize for that. I think Lin is likely to be gone if Howard comes on. Maybe not. Whatever happens, I hope Houston ends up with a good roster next year and I hope that Lin can be in a positive situation for himself, too.
Dude. Even Chris Paul and Rajon Rondo have been beaten by the P&R, yet nobody questions their defensive skills. That's what a pick and roll is for: To turn a 1-on-1 defensive matchup into a 2-on-1 offense advantage for a second or two. It takes an entire team's defense to guard an elite P&R duo like Parker/Duncan, Westbrook/Durant, etc. They have torched many good team defenses. Lin can't guard 2 players at once. I've watched almost every game. Lin does a tremendous job of fighting over the pick, he rarely goes under the pick, and he doesn't switch unless coach McHale wants them to. Lin is not a liability on defense. He stays in front of his man and contests their shot. He does not gamble on steals as much as he used to. Beverly reaches in a lot, leading to cheap fouls and putting his man on the FT line a lot.
