I think this is what people miss when they say the U.S. does this to, and that anyone would do this if their country was invaded. Out and out murder of POWs is sickening. Do it in the battle field when it's man on man, but to capture someone and then murder them in cold blood, and film it and laugh about it, there's no way in hell this is comparable to the U.S.
Yeah, i was about to say that too. It would not be good to attack Al Jazeera's tower. We are in 2 wars already, Afghan still, and Iraq.
If I was killed fighting for something like this I would want the whole world to see me and what happened, so that maybe some "file footage" could prevent the same thing from happening again... If you don't think it should be shown, don't watch.
Just to clarify something that MacBeth mentioned... If the POWs are filmed as part of an ongoing news event - reporters embedded with troops, for example - then that is not a violation. Two reasons for this: 1) it is not a violation of the soldiers' privacy, no more than if someone filmed you waliing down the street, and 2) the soldiers are not being exploited for propaganda purposes. Their rights are not being violated. As far as the taping goes, though, I would say that that is the least of the violations we have seen: 1) Beating and/or torturing prisoners. It is quite evident from the condition of the soldiers that some of them have been beaten. 2) Executing prisoners. Despite MacBeths flimsy hypotheticals, it is also evident that at least 4 prisoners were executed. Bullet to the head, no battle rattle - they were executed. This is obviously the most serious violation that one can commit. 3) Faking surrender. This is also prohibited, as it makes it very, very difficult for us to accept real surrenders. Very disturbing. Also quite underhanded but technically not a prohibited activity (at least I don't think so) are reports that Iraqi soldiers are putting on civilian clothes, acting like jubilant liberated Iraqis, and then ambushing our troops. Like I said, not illegal, but very disturbing, because it makes it difficult for us to trust *anyone* we encounter. I do not think that the tape should have been shown, since it is an obvious violation of the Geneva Convention. It does not surprise me that Al Jazeera and other Arab networks are essentially looping it, though. They do not feel that the Geneva Conventions apply to them (they never have). I applaud FOX news for voluntarily refusing to air it. The only major US network that has not.
It opened for me, but it was very slow. Rocketman Tex please warn us before posting a link like that. VERY VERY graphic and unsettling. Every has been warned. Use caution before deciding whether or not to view those photos.
After it's all said and done, saying you're bigger than the rules except when you want the other guys to obey the rules does have its drawbacks AKA you look like hypocrites to the world. http://www1.timesofindia.com/cms.dll/xml/uncomp/articleshow?msid=41290215 http://www.arabnews.com/Article.asp?ID=24201
Blood pools on the side of the body facing down. I assume none of the other posters is a medical examiner able to tell from a glance where those injuries came from. After enough time is impossible to tell the difference between a bruise which happens before death and this post mortem lividity. All I hear is rumormongering. Once we get the POW's back we'll hear the real story, not everyone's guess slanted to justify their own point of view.
It's fine if you don't respect Al Jazeera, but to say it's an all anti-American propoganda machine is false. The Israeli govt. while sometimes anti-Al Jazeera is also on the record at times being pro Al-Jazeera because they will show everything and anything, including clear examples of Palestinian terrorism and misdoings. Condi Rice, and Collin Powell have volunteered for Al Jazeera and their interviews were shown in their entirety. They did this even while Condi Rice was trying to label Al-Jazeera as a propoganda tool of Al Qaeda. Oddly enough that action is a propoganda tool in itself. After all Rice is the one that talked to many of the news agencies in the U.S. and asked them not to show footage of Bin Laden. Al-Jazeera will show both sides or all five sides to any conflict. The more information they have the more they will show, it doesn't matter what side it comes from. Having that kind of policy means they do get a lot of footage from America's enemies like OBL, or Iraq and things. Because they show footage they obtain doesn't mean they are an all anti-American propoganda machine. It only means they will show all the news they have. Al-Jazeera while geared towards it's Arab audience will show
OK I posted this in another thread but somewhat topical: http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0325/p01s04-woiq.html excerpt Washington watches Al Jazeera The Bush administration sees Al Jazeera - the cable news channel made famous for its airing of Osama Bin Laden tapes - as having an anti-American bias. But, since the seven-year-old Al Jazeera has grown from six to 24 hours of daily programming and reaches more than 35 million Arab speakers around the world, including 150,000 in the United States, Washington seems to be attempting to work more closely with the network. The Pentagon offered Al Jazeera four choice spots for its reporters to be embedded with US military units and assigned it a special media liaison officer and both National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld have given extensive interviews to Al Jazeera in recent days. Al-Arabiya and Abu Dhabi, two other 24-hour Arab-language stations, have received similar attention from the administration.
For those who don't like their news censored. Warning images are gruesome http://www.aljazeera.net/news/arabic/2003/3/3-23-23.htm
What the hell is the matter with you people? Are you guys Faces of Death fans or something? Give the dead a little respect.
I got it too. And I wish every ****ing muther****er on this board would get it. Regardless of what you thought prior to the war look at these ****ing pictures and tell me we don't need to fix that part of the world.
