Dwight doesn't want to play with Harden, prefers Orlando-style team or superstar PG?

No one believe Lakers is the front runner for Howard.

Huston still have bigger chance.

But don't underestimate what Kobe did to Howard may actually mess up Howard's head and affect his decision this time.

If he want to leave LA, the main factor is Kobe not coach MDA.

 

You think Fegan pushed the whole Lakers thing for his own self interest and squeezed Brooklyn out?

 

Exactly!

The bad part is he wont *get it* until his mid to late 30's when he's a hanger on trying to leech his first championship off the star player at that time.

 

Howard could be mad at Fegan for leaking information. Fegan could just be repeating information he heard from Howard so that doesn't make it not true. It's not like Fegan making that up would convince Howard not to come to Houston.

 

I must have missed this. I didn't cyber posted that Dwight was considering firing his agent.

Was there any more detail to the post? This is interesting considering Parsons just signed with him

 

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=8048097&postcount=447

 

This makes very little sense.

He either wants to play with a superstar PG or with an Orlando like team with no perennial all-stars?

What superstar point guard is he going to play with in Houston, LA, Dallas or Atlanta? What superstar PG is available? Maybe Rondo who's coming off of an ACL tear? How does Houston, Dallas, LA or ATL acquire both Howard and Rondo?

Playing with a superstar PG isn't really feasible if he's really looking at LA, Hou, Dallas and ATL. I guess he could consider Kyrie Irving a superstar PG but if he did then I would assume that Cleveland would be meeting with him next week and it doesn't appear that that will be.

The other suggestion is that he wants to play with an Orlando type team with no perennial all-stars? I guess that removes Dallas and LA from consideration then. Last I checked Nowitzki, Gasol and Bryant had many more All-Star appearances than Harden's lone appearance.

Looking back at Dwight's history in Orlando and his statements about that time, it doesn't appear that he was overly fond of the roster.

Does this sound like he's longing for that type of team again:


Dwight Howard took a swipe at his former Orlando Magic teammates in a recent television interview, saying that the Magic squads he played on were “full of people who nobody wanted.”

During an extended Q-and-A with a Los Angeles TV station, Howard was asked to respond to criticism about his tendency to smile and kid around during practices and games. His comment about his former Magic teammates was said almost as an aside at the end of a larger answer.

At about 2 minutes, 30 seconds into the video, Howard began: “And I understand coming here to L.A., Kobe’s here and for 17 years Laker fans have seen Kobe be, they just see Kobe as somebody who’s serious. It seems like he doesn’t fool around, joke around, whatever it may be. But that’s his personality, and just because I don’t necessary make a [growling sound] or do all that during games or on the bench, that doesn’t mean I don’t care about succeeding or wanting to win.

“And I always tell people, ‘Hey, my team in Orlando was a team full of people who nobody wanted, and I was the leader and I led that team with a smile on my face.”

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/spor...lando-magic-teammates-20130305,0,6366042.post

Does this sound like he was happy?


In a one-on-one interview afterward, though, he made it clear he is not happy with the collective personality of Orlando's roster and that changes need to be made. The same message, he said, was delivered to owner Rich DeVos and CEO Bob Vander Weide in a meeting last week that included Howard sharing thoughts on everything from personnel to fan involvement and arena atmosphere at home games.

And if the Magic do not win the 2012 championship and the personality of the roster stays the same?

"Then things have to change," Howard told NBA.com.

Including your address?

"At the end of the day, as far as what I want to accomplish as a basketball player, to be one of the greats, you have to win championships,"

http://www.nba.com/2011/news/06/13/dwight-howard-free-agency-future/index.html

Sorry but I'm not buying any of this. If these claims were true then Howard's only potential destination would be San Antonio (and CH would be unbearable). That's the only real place where he could play with a superstar PG and have a chance to win a championship.

 

It hurt when we weren't able to acquire Melo or Bosh or even Dwight back then because our team didn't have a franchise player. We were stuck in mediocrity with no clear direction. Reason why i won't be as disappointed if we fail again this summer because i put more value/importance at the fact that we have a James Harden now. Getting that first piece is the most difficult part. We already got one. Getting the 2nd and/or the 3rd one will come soon enough. Just be patient.

 

This is true. I believe we are getting Howard though but I won't be disappointed if we don't because soon enough we will get that second star player eventually.

 

If Dwight played for San antonio, he'd be expected to be paid $5m a year less, and he'd be expected to only do pick and rolls because that's what he's best at, and if he didn't, Pop would just sit his ass until he did.

Now I'd pay to see that, I really would

 

No. I know Fegan bungled the Nets deal because he talked to them and had Dwight talk to them in violation of the CBA. Magic were threatening tampering. (They could've proven it too.) And the result was that they were able to exercise more control and not let Dwight go to the Nets. This is why Dwight didn't simply opt out. If he had've opted out, Magic were going to prove tampering and the league office would've prevented Dwight from signing there outright. That was due to Fegan bumbling. I'm not willing to say Fegan did it intentionally. Because I don't know that. And I don't have any reason to believe that. All the indicators pointed to (and still point to) the fact that Dwight wanted to go to Brooklyn and his shoe deal there would have been ginormous. Fegan gets a nice piece of that shoe deal so I personally think Fegan was trying to get Dwight to Brooklyn.

Orlando gave approval for Fegan to discuss trade scenarios with Brooklyn but instead Fegan had Dwight meet with the big Russian and then the game was on to get to unrestricted free agency. That is when Orlando started the tampering business. And then it all stopped. Orlando didn't pursue tampering charge any more. Why? Because they roped Fegan into working with them to either keep Dwight in Orlando or get proper assets back in a trade. Fegan then responded by catching Alex Martins in a word glitch and threated to expose him if Martins didn't cooperate in a trade to the Lakers after the season. Martins had promised not to trade Dwight, thereby getting Dwight to opt-in (or not opt out) of the last season of his deal. Martins' promise was meant to apply to not being traded at the trade deadline in 2012. He didn't mean he wouldn't trade Dwight after the 2011-12 season. However Fegans played this to the hilt by not cooperating with the Magic on an extension and the relationship turned cold quickly after the 2012 season. Orlando started looking to trade Dwight elsewhere....including to the Rockets because we had the best pile of assets to help them rebuild and were willing to take on the most bad contracts from them. And then Fegan steps up and threatens Martins that if he doesn't trade Dwight to the Lakers that he (Fegans) will expose Martins as not keeping his promise of not trading Dwight.

That's why the crappy trade with the Lakers went down and why we were all left shaking our heads about the fact that the Rockets had offered Orlando a much better deal.

So, what happened was Fegans screwed Dwight out of going to the Nets because he acted stupidly and got caught. Not because he was intentionally trying to mess up the Nets deal but because he was trying to make too many things go Dwight's way and he violated the CBA doing it. Remember, the Nets wanted Dwight to walk there without them having to give up talent in a trade...but would have traded for Dwight (and subsequently given him the 5-yr max deal) if they could've sent Orlando junk. Orlando was having none of that. That whole Dwight-Brooklyn situation was fraught with circumvention and tampering both!

Fegans is the single cog that has bungled up Dwight. He's the reason why Dwight isn't in Brooklyn right now. He screwed that up. He's the reason why Dwight got traded to the Lakers and Orlando didn't get back more value. And he's the single reason keeping the Dwight sweepstakes from being a runaway to the Rockets right now. Because he's still trying to put it to us for the Hakeem contract debacle. Dwight should have never hired him and he should have fired him a long time ago. And frankly if Dwight doesn't sign here, Parsons should fire him as soon as Dwight signs elsewhere. The Parsons-Fegans relationship is all about Parsons trying to get Dwight to Houston and Fegans trying to get his hands in the pie with another player. That's all it's about. And knowing the way Fegans does things....it's bad news for the Parsons/Rockets relationship if Parsons retains Fegans long-term. Don't be surprised if Fegans uses the leverage of having Parsons opt in to a qualifying offer the Rockets give after releasing him from the final year of his contract this season. If that happens Parsons will most likely be traded (for pennies on the dollar value) at the deadline in 2015 because Morey is probably not going to take the chance of Parsons walking for nothing.

 

Now Brussard is just guessing. Go look at Randolph's twitter posts from yesterday. They say a lot.

 

This is so dumb.

Morey knows his stats but apparently little if anything about people or psychology.

This is what will happen, folks, if we sign Howard. We sign Howard to a long-term contract and three months in the whining (and excuses) will start: I don't get enough shots, no one passes me the ball, Harden is a ball hog, they don't play my type of defense, Coach McHale doesn't run this set for me, OKC needs a center--God, I wish I was in OKC! god, I wish I could play with Dirk instead of this Harden guy, the only player I like on this team is Parsons, etc. etc. And then Howard's play will slack off, he will give only half effort, the lockerroom will be all finger-pointing, etc. etc.

Is Houston willing to sell its soul for a big baby who will want out of Houston sooner than they could ever imagine? Go ahead. Sign him. I dare you. There is a reason they call it the "Dwightmare".

 

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Didn't Carl Herrera used to be a Rockets fan and a decent poster, WTF happened? All I see are inflammatory, BS stories and bagging on good players and pimping crap, end of the bench nobodies. What happened to this guy?

 

FWIW

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Hearing the Clippers will be in play for Dwight Howard next week. It will depend on salary and sign and trade.</p>&mdash; Shaun Powell (@Powell2daPeople) <a href="https://twitter.com/Powell2daPeople/statuses/351027352047861760">June 29, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Clippers have the OK from Donald Sterling to do whatever it takes.</p>&mdash; Shaun Powell (@Powell2daPeople) <a href="https://twitter.com/Powell2daPeople/statuses/351027570218770435">June 29, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Dwight Howard wants Chris Paul as a teammate. Feels Paul will involve him in the offense.</p>&mdash; Shaun Powell (@Powell2daPeople) <a href="https://twitter.com/Powell2daPeople/statuses/351027893951934464">June 29, 2013</a></blockquote>
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And that died real quickly

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Doc Rivers, Chris Paul both want Howard but not at expense of Blake Griffin.</p>&mdash; Shaun Powell (@Powell2daPeople) <a href="https://twitter.com/Powell2daPeople/statuses/351028365974716417">June 29, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Harden is a triple threat... he can pass, shoot or drive.

If Dwight wants something who can only pass, he's an you-know-what.

 

This is what i'm saying!

The news that comes out about him always has him looking like a phony.

Like his whole lil fan-friendly, smiley face persona is COMPLETELY fraud according to reports on his soon to be decision.

Either he wants to ward off teams purposely...or is being falsely represented and taking huge hits on public perception.

You would think that if he were real about it...he would speak up for himself at some point.

If he doesn't fire his agent....you basically know it's him saying this and that he really is dumber than it appears.

 

Maybe they're hoping the Lakers will take DeAndre and Butler