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Ginobili's OT drive: Foul or Travel?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by tehG l i d e, Jun 19, 2013.

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  1. Easy

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    I think it was a travel. The foul, if it's a foul, happened before the travel. Allen's arm was on Ginobili's body after the first step.

    So it should be called either a travel (if the contact was judged not serious) or a foul.

    As VanityHalfBlack pointed out, it could also be a jump ball because Allen's hand was on the ball too.
     
  2. torocan

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    Meh, I think the travel is a 50/50 depending on where you count the gather step.

    It was definitely a foul on Manu and on Green, but they often don't call those at the end of games. Personally I think they should have called at least one of them... not calling both of them leaves a kind of off impression.

    As for Lebron and Green's play, I thought that was clearly not a foul on Green.

    Doesn't matter though.. we're now in game 7 and I expect an all out war.

    I had the Spurs in 7 in a close series, and still believe that's what we'll get. Given how tough both these teams are, I wouldn't be surprised if Miami pulls out a win either.

    Would anyone really be surprised at either outcome? I sure wouldn't.
     
  3. Johndoe804

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    It wasn't a travel and was an obvious foul on the arm. He would've been able to get up a shot if he wasn't fouled. The refs didn't want to give the Spurs the chip on free throws, though. Understandable.
     
  4. Angkor Wat

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    No travel, good no call
     
  5. Mr. Space City

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    clealry not a foul on allen. all ball.
     
  6. greatpacha1

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    Never make a call with that little amt of time
     
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    Steve Javie was ESPN Radio.

    Think he said something along the lines that when the ball was initially knocked loose, the contact was not illegal
     
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    Maybe if Gino wasn't driving so out of control, he gets a call or makes a play
     
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    Doesn't matter. Manu shouldn't have missed the ft or they would have a championship. Refs don't make these calls at the end of games.
     
  10. dragician

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    he tried.
     
  11. dragician

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    this is the problem if you are a known flopper.
     
  12. Patience

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    Both and neither. Good no call at the end of a finals game. Manu had nowhere to go.
     
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    It's funny how so many people are pointing fingers at the bad officiating after the Spurs started losing.
     
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    It was neither a foul nor a travel. It was, however, a terrible decision.
     
  15. rocketblaze

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    Manu is costing them this series.
     
  16. tinywang

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    this definitely leans more on the side of travel than not a travel.
     
  17. megastahr

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    can anyone make this a gif? Its a perfect example of the gathering provision that allows a player two actually take 3 steps on a drive either from a pass or from a dribble. They can take a step or hop to gain control of the ball then still take two additional steps.

    Rule 9, Section XIII, Item (b): A player who receives the ball while he is progressing or upon completion of a dribble, may take two steps in coming to a stop, passing or shooting the ball. A player who receives the ball while he is progressing must release the ball to start his dribble before his second step. The first step occurs when a foot, or both feet, touch the floor after gaining control of the ball.
     
  18. ferrari77

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    Huh? You have the wrong thread brother. Might want to go to the actual thread for the series. The majority of people in this thread agree with the no-call by the ref and actually seem to believe the officiating was pretty good.
     
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    yah this whole series has been shockingly well done. It sucks because in the first 40 minutes of the game that call would have probably been a foul for ginobli...and the shot block by bosh would have DEFINITELY been a foul...because it was lol.


    But no ref is going to end a finals game much less a series on a last minute foul call on a catch and shoot. Just wont happen.
     

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