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Double standard in the NBA

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by OTMax, May 31, 2013.

  1. OTMax

    OTMax Member

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    See, this is was just feeds the conspiracy theorists and regular fans to think the NBA is helping or favouring one team over the other. Throughout the season several have made it clear Andersen was a good signing by the Heat and played a big part in their winning streak. Now to what happened in game 5 a little summary by an author who's right on the money imo:

    http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2013/05/31/birdman-should-sit-for-manhandling-ref/

    Now tell me, how in the world did Andersen stay in this game?? First of all the shove was enough, apparent by their ejection of Nazr Mohammed, to get him ejected. They didn't even upon reviewing the play! This brings me to the most important point, why did they even need to review it when he was clearly out of line by how he handled the referee? There's a double-standard here and not just because of this, but also the point the writer in the article is making: Hansborough didn't sell it / didn't flop. Had he done that, they probably would've decided differently so the league office need to make up their mind what they want.
     
  2. Juxtaposed Jolt

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    Maybe Birdman will sit for game 6. This thread shouldn't exist until game 6 begins, imo.
     
  3. peleincubus

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    I hope so. As much as I hate a Texas team getting a 5th ring when Hakeem only got 2. I think I want lebron lose 3 times in the finals. And a game 7 with the pacers while the spurs are resting has to help that.
     
  4. SuperBeeKay

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    it's rigged man
     
  5. OTMax

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    Yes it should, the point is that he wasn't ejected after being physical with the referee while for instance the shove alone was worth it in Nazr doing it to Lebron in the past.
     
  6. pacertom

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    The BS factors that affect the severity of the punishment seem to be:

    -who did it (reputation as a troublemaker and stature as a player)
    -who they did it to (a star or a non-star, a hothead or a non-hothead)
    -how much did the person they did it to "sell it"
    -is it a call that will anger the home crowd


    None of these should matter at all, but they do, obviously

    Focus on:

    -what did they do
    -were they provoked or not
     
  7. Williamson

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    the reason mohammed got ejected was because of everything that came before in that series. i believe his shove came in game 3 after there had been a bunch of technicals and extracurriculars in game 2. the refs weren't going to allow much at that point. then mohammed just wrapped lebron up at halfcourt for no reason, lebron threw him off (which got him a tech), and then mohammed shoved him in the chest and knocked him down when he wasn't looking. nazr wouldn't have been ejected without all of the other stuff that came before.

    and if there is a double standard, it's that the refs aren't going to let some 10 minute a game player try to start something with a superstar to try to get him ejected. the 10 minute a game guy knows he isn't important to his team and that the superstar is important to his team and can't fight back without really hurting his team. so either he wins by getting in a shot with no retaliation or he wins by getting both ejected. the league isn't going to have that, no matter which team the superstar plays for.

    while what andersen did was uncalled for, the shove itself didn't have either of the above circumstances attached to it.

    in game 1, mahinmi grabbed lebron's arm on a drive and dragged him down without the refs calling a flagrant even though it was (the league later upgraded it). it was basically the same foul ginobili committed in one of the games in the warriors series that was actually called a flagrant on the court. and it was right at the end of the game and got the warriors to overtime. why does the league have such a double standard of favoring the warriors all the time over the heat? why was mario chalmers fouled on a 3 at the end of a game in last year's heat/pacers series with no call but paul george received less contact on a 3 at the end of a game in this year's heat/pacers series and got a call? why the double standard?

    and if lebron flopped/sold the fall against mohammed, why isn't hansborough being accused of flopping/selling the initial hit from birdman? neither guy was looking or had their feet planted to absorb contact and were obviously going to fall from the contact so i'm not sure how one was different than the other. the reason hansborough didn't fall on the shove is he and andersen were leaning into each other and hansborough was looking right at the shove and could react.
     
  9. KingLeoric

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    It depends on what was done, to whom it was done, who did it and where.
     
  10. TheresTheDagger

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    Its been known for years that superstars get special treatment. Lebron's shove by Nazr was an automatic ejection. Birdman's shove is a flagrant 1 cause Miami really needed him in a crucial game 5 at home.

    Officials know they are being watched.
     
  11. J.R.

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    @NBCSportsRadio's Rob Simmelkjaer spoke to @NBA Commish David Stern today & said that Miami Heat forward Chris Andersen "should have been ejected" for his shove against Tyler Hansbrough."I don't know what be was doing" said Stern. "A serious review of his activities is called for." Full interview on NBCSportsRadio.com tomorrow at 8am ET.
     
  12. qwertzy

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    Nothing new judges last two years are already judge for Miami
     
  13. pacertom

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    more from Stern:

    “I do think he (Anderson) should have been ejected. I looked at the replays and, it seems to me, there was no immediate push or shove of him, he just hauled off and knocked down Tyler Hansbrough. I don’t know what he was doing. And then he pushed him. And then he did not go gracefully to the bench. A serious review of activities is called for... so stay tuned.”

    http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports....brough/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
     
  14. OTMax

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    Haha great stuff, can you imagine how many more games Maxwell would've been suspended and fines he would've received for not going to the bench or leaving the court 'gracefully' :grin: On a serious note: glad he said it. It really seems more and more that the referees are just incompetent.
     

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