[Sean Deveney] Will Dwight Howard force a Lakers sign-and-trade?

I think we need a separate forum where the trolls and the troll-feeders can make their own threads and leave the rest of us alone.

 

~lol~ Good idea, I don't think "troll-feeders" would visit though. So it would be just forum full of trolls. ~lol~

 

That is your problem -- you don't really read. I don't know where you're getting these phantom arguments from. I thought I had been clear. I don't disagree with your overall premise that moving Lin's $8M might be warranted, or that he isn't a great fit next to Harden...though I have my doubts now in the same way how I used to think WB did not 'fit' with KD, but see now that having multiple tools in the toolbox can be quite crucial. But I digress.

You keep saying things like, how could I argue this or that when I never argued it in the first place. But I get it -- sometimes it is tough to respond to people's posts when you don't actually read them. No, instead I applaud you for your ability to blatantly do that and still hold your head up high. I guess that sort of tunnel vision is something that is lost with my generation. Too bad.

I agree though that Lin's playoff performance was horrible. He was playing hurt (so obvious if you watched the games) so I don't think his numbers or utility are that indicative. But even the first game, it was bad, though to be fair, I think all the Rockets were bad in Game 1 lol. If you asked me is Lin proven to be good in the playoffs? I would say hell naw! We also don't have too much info to go on though so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt there. His overall season was aight, and his latter half was pretty good. What impressed me the most was how during the season, his shot % from all over the floor really went up quite a bit. Imagine what an offseason could do.

What is my logical argument here again? Oh yes, that comparing Aaron Brooks from 4 yrs ago to Lin now is stupid. I still think that is stupid. Can you point to ANYTHING that says AB is the same person he is now as he was 4 yrs ago? Something to base your comment on? You're just begging the question instead. The above bolded part of your statement is why your whole argument fails. If we were comparing, in some theoretical realm AB from 4 yrs ago to Lin today, then maybe your comments would have some veracity to them, or some basis, but we're not. We're in 2013.

 

Honestly man, I'm going to try to say this as nicely as possible - you are a troll feeder.

I know you think you're fighting the good fight and standing up for what's right and all this other stuff, but there's something to be said for picking and choosing your battles. A lot of the stuff you respond to is blatant trolling - they want you to respond, and you oblige them and reward them for their behavior. Then you start turning off the people who are actually coming from an honest place and are trying to have a discussion because you're spending all of your time yelling at everyone to stop running in the halls.

What is it, exactly, that you're trying to do? Combat racism? Take it to the mods. Discuss sports? Then talk about sports and stop responding tit-for-tat to obvious provocations. Convert people to your point of view? Well, then you'll catch more flies with honey, because the people willing to listen don't like being yelled at like they are 12 year-old trolls.

 

Did the Lin haters get their thread starting privileges taken away? Is that why they are here?

This article was stupid and now this thread has degenerated into Aaron Brooks vs Jeremy Lin. Serious?

I predict Brooks will be let on June 30 as with many of the Rockets non-guaranteed contracts to make cap room for the signing of Dwight Howard.

Did you guys think Brooks's $2.5m team option contract was anything but to free cap room.

It's Brooks that will be let go to create cap room NOT Jeremy Lin

Jeremy Lin will only be traded in a package for Chris Paul NOT Jarret Jack or small pieces. Will will still be at least 10 million below the tax line after the acquisition of Howard and J.Smith, more than enough to acquire role players.

One more prediction...

Jeremy Lin will start over Beverley because the Owner, GM, Coach believe he is a better player 'right now'

Trust me, if Lin is not traded, he will start.

Do you think my 2 predictions are wrong? Tell me why.

 

Can we just stop discussing trading Lin altogether?! He is not going anywhere next season ,and he'll definitely be a much better player next season.

 

Dude, I know. That's what I was saying; I definitely wouldn't go to the forums you talked about.

Well, I am not the kind that likes to let bad things slide and incubate. I like to smoke'em out and tackle them. And you are saying they liked my posts? Well that's not such a bad thing in itself but I don't think that's the case. So far IMO what I've been doing has worked. Why would they like to be disciplined? Fetish?

I am sorry about that but I'm sure some people think it should be done. Besides, discussions could still go on, it's not like we're in a concert hall or anything. Just ignore this stuff if you don't like it. Plz pardon the interruption and go on with business. Ignore if you think a particular post is disciplinary action. Why do you advocate just ignoring racistic comments but you can't ignore responses?

I don't like to call mods, police stuff like that if one could take care of it. Combating racism is certainly something I feel like doing, along with expressing and venting.

I do talk about sports all the times but I do not like to evade from provocations unless a gun is pointed at my head. I don't like to be talking about sports and then suddenly racism appears and I'll have to put my head in the sand. If you do a Chamberlain doesn't mean Hitler will go away. This problem isn't a temporary thing, you just hide and it will pass. No, it took tons effort by numerous people to get to where we are and it could grow back easily if people aren't made aware of it and be educated.

No, I don't try to convert. So you were saying trolls want me to discipline them now you are saying they don't like it. Well, I think they more likely don't like it. I do believe the people do have a conscience and it can be appealed to. All in all, I like to deal with problems while you like to evade; I like to stand up for myself you like to endure. I do my thing you do yours, IMHO no need to say I'm wrong or bad or anything like that.

 

Exhibit A.

 

Yes. Jeremy Lin is not going anywhere until he gets his game to the all star level. James Harden on the other hand...can we start discussing how we can start the transition process to the Lakers? He still needs a few more years at this level of play, but I think he might be a good call up in the next few years.

 

Mate, i got all the time in the world to take on trolls like you. Especially since you are an admitted LA troll.

You LA guys are getting desperate with your soon to be decade of crappy teams. Dwight leaving is just the start. Actually i think the reason why you and your LA homers come to clutch fans to troll is because you're envious, you actually see that Houston is the team to watch for the future. You secretly are a Rockets fan but are too immature to realize that its ok to switch. I'm an aussie and can tell you i've followed many teams in my life... Dr.J with the Sixers; magic and bird in the 80s, jordan in the 90s.

Its ok to be a houston fan, just stop with the nonsense

Very happy to troll the trolls

 

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Listen dude, I'm not sure how this evolved into a Jeremy Lin vs Aaron Brooks debate but this has become nonsense. I honestly couldn't give a rat's ass which one is better, The whole point of my posts throughout this entire thread is that in the hypothetical situation that the Rockets had Harden, Smith, and Howard on the payroll and needed more cap space to fill out the roster with solid veteran role players, plus have the ability to resign Parsons next year, where do the cuts come from? The only logical choice is Jeremy Lin because he is the one player on the roster that can be sufficiently replaced for less money. Maybe it's Brooks, maybe it's one of numerous other guys, but you can most certainly get the same or better production for less.

And to make it clear one last time- I LIKE JEREMY LIN!!! Just don't think he's the right fit for the money on a hypothetical team consisting of Harden, Smith, and Howard. And especially not in the above hypothetical situation. Maybe the Rockets won't sign both Smith and Howard. But if they do sign both, I'd be willing to bet any amount of money that Jeremy Lin will not be on the roster.

 

Rockets doesn't need to free cap space to re-sign parsons once his contract is up. only question is are the rockets (Les) willing to pay the contract + penalty (as we can go beyond the cap space just need to pay the penalty for it)

thing is parsons contract won't be up after 2 more years... by that time Lin and asik's contract will also be finished... so I don't see any problem there...

 

Exactly, the cap space problem people are saying we need to get rid of Lin for doesnt exist. Les has said he is willing to go into the tax for the right reasons. Im sure resigning parsons on a contender is the right reason.

CONTENDER

Lin
Harden
Parsons
J.Smith
Howard

 

The Rockets will probably make Parsons a restricted free agent next summer so he can get paid. If they make him wait two years he will be a unrestricted free agent and he could walk.

 

This thread has transformed into a succession of "Hidden message because XXX is on your ingore list".

Hopefully cyberx can come and give us some news to get good discussions back in place.

 

TIP JAR BET: $10,000

If the Rockets sign both Josh Smith and Dwight Howard this offseason, Jeremy Lin will not be on their opening day roster. Any takers?

Let's go LOF's, put your money where your mouth is. You can all pitch in a dollar.

 

I get your underlying premise. Most of it I don't have a problem with. That's why I didn't comment on that. I'm just commenting on the stupid part (the AB vs. Lin statements). Is it a long and probably unnecessary tangent? Sure, but so is trying to defend something incorrect or stupid.

 

AB is an undersized SG who cannot defend and needs the ball in his hands. He would be a terrible fit.