1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Random Houston Rockets Trade Ideas - 2012-13

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Aug 10, 2012.

  1. larsv8

    larsv8 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2007
    Messages:
    21,663
    Likes Received:
    13,916
    If Pierce is bought out, Garnett is not going to rot on a rebuilding team, and he is not going to retire and sacrifice his 24m guaranteed.

    Nothing in my sig is forbidden by the CBA.
     
  2. AVoiceInACrowd

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2013
    Messages:
    226
    Likes Received:
    20
    Several reasons the 3 way trade won't happen.

    1. Why would Boston SnT for Millsap when he is a free agent this year? No way they are trading away KG for a guy they can sign without losing assets.

    2. KG will only allow himself to be traded to a team he feels has a chance to win a championship, and that's not Houston.

    3. When, Linsanity happened Alexander and Morey had to answer a lot of questions on why they cut Lin. Now, that they resigned him. If they trade him again after only a year, when he put up solid numbers and he flourishes with the new team putting up all-star like numbers they will get crucified by the media, unless the trade was for a player that would significantly help them challenge for a championship. KG at 37 isn't that player. I think he is a good fit for the team, but he isn't going to put them into the championship contender group.
     
  3. pnr

    pnr Member

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2012
    Messages:
    2,387
    Likes Received:
    58
    Lol Lin is not going to net Milsap, are you serious?
     
  4. RickyNewport

    RickyNewport Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2012
    Messages:
    1,636
    Likes Received:
    27
    You can think about trading Harden all you want but Morey isn't thinking about it at all. He's already stated Harden is the ONLY UNTRADABLE PLAYER ON THE TEAM. So your case to trade Harden is a mute point.

    And trade Harden for Blake...? Blake is overrated. That's what you call a bat 5h!t crazy idea.
     
  5. larsv8

    larsv8 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2007
    Messages:
    21,663
    Likes Received:
    13,916
    1.) Boston is over the cap, they can't sign anyone without a sign and trade.
    2.) Adding Bynum and Garnett absolutely makes us a contender.
    3.) Disagree. Jeremy Lin is a below average point guard and his bloated salary vs. the opportunity cost of making deals like these makes him a liability, specifically when there is little to no drop off by playing Beverely at a substantially lower cost. See #2
     
  6. pnr

    pnr Member

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2012
    Messages:
    2,387
    Likes Received:
    58
    So you're saying that we are able to get Garnett, Bynum, and Milsap for Lin, Garcia, and Delfino? Are you excluding picks as well?
     
  7. RickyNewport

    RickyNewport Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2012
    Messages:
    1,636
    Likes Received:
    27
    Utah may can draft Dennis Schroeder which would settle their PG situation.

    And Utah may not want to pay Lin $15 million on the last year of his deal _ that's Utah, they wouldn't be able to benefit off of Lin off the court like a team like Houston does.
     
  8. larsv8

    larsv8 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2007
    Messages:
    21,663
    Likes Received:
    13,916
    No, I am saying you are essentially using your cap space to sign Bynum and then trading Lin to Boston for Garnett. Since Boston has no use for Lin, because of Rondo, you are sending him to Utah instead. They need a PG, and they have to spend cap space to meet the minimum salary requirements. They in turn facilitate the Boston deal by signing and trading Milsap to Boston, which is a player they could use to get younger. Utah most likely lets him walk anyway, so what do they care.

    Of course they would
     
  9. pnr

    pnr Member

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2012
    Messages:
    2,387
    Likes Received:
    58
    If Utah wanted to trade Milsap, they could get a better offer than just Lin.
     
  10. larsv8

    larsv8 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2007
    Messages:
    21,663
    Likes Received:
    13,916
    dude seriously.....

    Milsap is a free agent.
     
  11. hooroo

    hooroo Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2003
    Messages:
    19,299
    Likes Received:
    1,920
    That Taiwanese tire company isn't paying for courtside signage because they're looking for business from Houston's asian community.
     
  12. hubeijames

    hubeijames Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2013
    Messages:
    459
    Likes Received:
    20
    This thread should be renamed "Get Lin Out of Houston Trade Ideas"
     
  13. Skyhoop

    Skyhoop Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2012
    Messages:
    683
    Likes Received:
    43
    Yes, it is forbidden. Read Larry Coon's FAQ and the parts regarding how contracts are structured.
     
  14. TheBeard

    TheBeard Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2013
    Messages:
    141
    Likes Received:
    1
    to be fair, he's not very good and on a horrible contract.
     
  15. larsv8

    larsv8 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2007
    Messages:
    21,663
    Likes Received:
    13,916
    The contract specifics are not important, but I will fix them just for you.
     
  16. DonatasFanboy

    DonatasFanboy Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2012
    Messages:
    10,645
    Likes Received:
    504
    1. no cap space.

    2. possibly.
     
  17. AVoiceInACrowd

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2013
    Messages:
    226
    Likes Received:
    20
    1. Replacing Millsap with KG isn't going to make Boston any better then they are now. So, why would they do the SnT? If they are trading Garnett it will be for Young cheap talent and draft picks to build on. They are a team that wants to win championships and a SnT for Millsap isn't the move to make.

    2.That's a lot of assumptions. That Bynum will be the same player he was before the injury. That Bynum will sign only a 2 year deal. That Bynum will won't get a better deal elsewhere. That Houston is interested in Bynum at all, when there has been no indications at all so far. That Garnett would agree with your assesment.

    3. It seems you have no idea what 8 million a year gets you in terms of starting point guards. There are only 4 starting pgs who make less than 8 million a year who aren't in their rookie contracts. 8 million a year is around the low end for a starting point guard not in their rookie contract.

    It really doesn't matter what you opinion of Lin is. The fact is he is a young, inexperienced player who improved in the second half of the season. As he improved as the season went along, he will continue to improve as all young players do when they have strong work ethics, history has proven that to be a fact. Alexander and Morey won't trade him for someone who is 37 and will play for 1 or 2 more years. The media would crucify them if they traded him without giving him time to see what he can do and he put up near all-star numbers with a new team and all they got was a player who only played 1 or 2 years for them.
     
  18. Skyhoop

    Skyhoop Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2012
    Messages:
    683
    Likes Received:
    43
    Good. You're welcome. Now you don't have to tote around a sig that says "I don't understand the CBA but I'm going to spout off random things based on it anyway." lol

    And yes, it is kind of important, since your original erroneous structure was an attempt to give Millsap more money averaged over the life of the contract, since presumably you know he's looking for more than what his current contract pays. But now, since you're forced to live within the CBA, your current proposal means he comes to Houston for zero raise and potentially a paycut since he makes a tad over $8M this past season, and you're asking him to take only $8M for the next 4 yrs when any free agent such as Millsap would be looking for a raise in their prime.
     
  19. larsv8

    larsv8 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2007
    Messages:
    21,663
    Likes Received:
    13,916
    1.) Obviously I have no idea what Boston's plan is. They have Rondo who is a solid foundation piece and are locked into several deals for complimentary pieces such as Lee, Terry and Green. Rumors are Pierce is on his way out via buyout. If they move toward a direction around Rondo, Milsap makes a ton of sense for Garnett since he is 10 years younger. Can't see any team moving young players for Garnett.

    2.) What random trade suggestion isn't made up of a bunch of assumptions?

    3.) That is all well and good, but it doesn't mean Lin's production is worth 8 million dollars. In order to be successful in this league you can't be just like everyone else. Paying 8 million dollars towards a position where you get outmatched 75% of the time just isn't worth it.

    As for the rest of that opinion...well..."That's a lot of assumptions."

    Everyone but max players will be taking pay cuts with the new CBA. That is a reality.
     
  20. AVoiceInACrowd

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2013
    Messages:
    226
    Likes Received:
    20
     

Share This Page