Jeremy Lin is a large reason of why we lost this series

Yeah, it wouldn't count in minds of the determined critics because it would've only been against Reggie Jackson. Lin's game 1 failure might've been upheld as the definitive Lin playoff sample.

Moreover, the Rockets would've probably gotten destroyed by the Spurs in the next round, and Parker would've probably thoroughly outplayed Lin. Then THAT would be the definitive series that exposed Lin's suckitude.

You just can't reason with people who've already made up their minds.

 

What are you trying to say? There's no disagreement. You're just going off on a different tangent so you can throw out some bash Lin and bash anyone that supports him lines.

Moreover, the Rockets would've probably gotten destroyed by the Spurs in the next round, and Parker would've probably thoroughly outplayed Lin.

Well, we would've have played memphis in the next round, not spurs. But I agree with you completely that the Spurs would've destroyed the Rockets and Parker wold've schooled Lin just like he schooled Curry.

You just can't reason with people who've already made up their minds.

This is especially true when you project what they are thinking and have your own agenda.

 

That's cool

I think it is very dangerous to define it literally. It is more like an appeal, charm, perfume, something like that.

Well said, and we are all sadly witnesses of it.

But of course, we have to be thankful that it is not the old extreme form.

 

Funny how that works, huh?

 

I wasn't saying that you were unreasonable. My regrets if it came off that way.

I was saying that given how some people have essentially tried to use a 1.5 game sample of Lin's playoff performance to try to discredit his young career as a starter (most of which he's played decently), it's entirely likely that even if the Rockets had beaten the Thunder, some people would've dismissed that achievement because Lin would've outplayed Reggie Jackson instead of Russell Westbrook. Therefore, he's not a true winner, and if he got outplayed by an actual starting PG in the next round, then THAT would've been the definitive playoff sample.

 

By those definitions, I think post-feminist women are way more "feminine" than pre-feminist women. Women who have free personalities and don't feel socially obligated to feign insipidity are way more appealing and charming to me.

 

Cool, good for you, then where do you think does this Asian fetish come from?

 

I wasn't saying that you were unreasonable. My regrets if it came off that way.

No worries.

it's entirely likely that even if the Rockets had beaten the Thunder, some people would've dismissed that achievement because Lin would've outplayed Reggie Jackson instead of Russell Westbrook.

I would tend to agree with you.
From what I noticed of the LOHs (or whatever they're called) behaviour this season is that they are literally hanging on any incident that would enable their anti-Lin hate to spew forth, even an injury.

So when Lin got injured I kind of expected the haters crawl out from under their rocks. To blame a player for not contributing because he was injured is pretty low. The comments of "its just a bone bruise, Lin is a wimp, he should play through that" is uncalled for IMHO. But I have a feeling they could stoop a lot lower, as evidenced by yesterday's posts about shipping him off to a more demographically suitable city (what is that? I thought Houston has a strong Chinese community).

 

No kidding.

Houston region is now the most diverse in the U.S.

http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Houston-region-is-now-the-most-diverse-in-the-U-S-3384174.php

 

This is spot on but there's really no stopping it. If you look at most negative Lin threads, it's probably like 80 percent Lin fans arguing with like 2-3 "LOHs/Trolls" causing the thread to continue a lot longer than it should. Lin would probably at worst get as much hate as Rafer Alston if it wasn't for the constant defending. Then somehow it always ends up going off topic to why there isn't any Asians in Hollywood.

 

There are definitely a few LOHs that get a huge reaction from LOFs but he also has a number of critics. I'd say about 25% - 30% of the board thinks he's average to bad.

I think he's a solid player that's shown glimpses of being very good to even great. I think some of the criticisms are fair, in particular being inconsistent. On the flip side I think blaming him for losing the playoff series is completely unfair. Basically losing in the first round was just an excuse for LOHs to point the blame on a guy that barely even played in the series. How do you blame a guy that didn't play in 80% of the series to be the reason we lost?

 

Sure, if no one posts in a thread, it will disappear. Problem is, new threads are being created. But of course, that too will fade out sooner or later. Let's hope sooner.

Come on, that is a gross exaggeration. Now that most LOHs/trolls are gone, maybe it's closer to that, but during "the hate" it certainly wasn't the case.

You've gotta remember, "the Hate" was a phenomenon, an explosion, the defending came later.

I like to derail Lin hate threads.

 

The main source has more interesting information even mentioning the different Asian communities.

http://blog.chron.com/sacredduty/2013/02/study-reveals-diversity-of-houston-asian-community/

 

Trolls can never die. They get banned and then start new accounts. The only way is to flame them. Only in this way can balance be maintained in the universe.

 

I don't think fans are blaming him solely for the lost but we can all agree that he was a huge liability every time he was on the floor. The games were close enough where if Lin did better it could of effected the outcome. To me it's more of an issue of giving him a pass or not because of his injury.

I thought he shouldn't of played at all after the injury. It was obvious that he wasn't healthy enough to contribute positively. He was constantly adjusting his undershirt, holding his chest, and grimacing after every play.

 

The thing is this: if Lin was so important to the Rockets that his failure to play his best greatly diminished their chances at beating the Thunder, then you HAVE to credit him with being a meaningful contributor to the excellent and promising regular season that the Rockets had.

It's illogical and unfair to say that Lin is a non-factor when the Rockets do well, yet is the scapegoat when they lose.

Yet that's what's happening here. His critics refuse to credit him with any of the Rockets' success (It's all Harden, Parsons, and Asik!), and assign almost all of the blame to this supposedly marginal player when the team loses.

As I said, illogical and unfair.

I would agree, but then again, remember all the heavy criticism that he endured last year when he sat out the Knicks playoffs series with a freaking tweaked knee?

I would hate the see the ****show that would've ensued here if he sat out because of a "mere" bone bruise.

 

Lin is an average starting PG, but its people like you who think being average is bad.

Smh.

 

I believe all people are saying is that he shouldn't have played in game 6, that he ruined momentum that bev and brooks built.

 

Yes, Lin proved that he is at least an average starting PG this season.

Given his rate of improvement and age, it's very likely that he'll end up being an above-average player at least.

 

Brooks was not very effective. Beverley could not stay out of foul trouble. Delfino was out. Lin had to play.