I have to disagree. You expect Mobley-bashing after he has a bad game in a loss. You expect it so much, in fact, that everyone assumes you're just mad about the loss and you aren't thinking straight. Cooler heads don't even bother clicking threads titled "Get rid of Mobley" because they already know it's stupid. But, if you post after he has a good game in a great win, not only are people caught unaware but they don't think you're just mad. It is obvious that you really, trully don't like Mobley. Of course, it doesn't keep your complaint from being stupid, but people won't blow you off as quickly as some manic-depressive fairweather fan.
I'm sure he would much rather play in LA with his buddy Lamar Odom. whom he said the Rockets should have picked up instead of Yao
Proteus, you have to propose a way to accomplish what you want, and a reasonable replacement. I also think Mobley has played much better ball in the second half this season. It would be hard to argue the team would be better if he went down with an injury, or other loss without compensation. You'd have to go with "his influence is poison" as your arguement, and I don't think that's true. Mobely is a pretty good guy, and a gamer. Try to explain what you would prefer. Can the coaches give him an instruction set ? Will he follow it? What will the coaches do if the instruction set/execution has problems? Think about that in the next few games.
Agreed... replace him with what. Make sure its a SG that scores between 17-20ppg, grabs a few boards, defends on the perimeter, distributes the ball... oh, and makes about the same as Mobley. I am sure the NBA has all sorts of those players, so I am looking forward to the list of suggested replacements...
Boki the 3rd option??? It's gonna be Ming, Francis, Mobes, Griff, and then Boki if he ever reaches is potential. I know people act like all he needs is to get off the bench, but there are tons and tons of players who have shown potential like Boki and have disappeared off the NBA map. Keep your fingers crossed on that kid, but don't get your hopes up.
Replace him with Francis and pick up a point guard. I think that's pretty obvious. Which point guard? who cares as long as he can get the ball to Francis and Yao. 17-20 ppg? Out of how many attempts? and which players were wide open when he took those shots?
proteuskim, After joining the board in July 2002, why have you waited till now to come out of the closet to spew some Mobley hatred? There have been plenty of Cat bashing threads. How come you didn't join in?
No, it isn't obvious. You think Francis is gonna be able to hold the bigger two guards? Do you think we can find a real good PG who will take a pay cut like Mobley did? You do have to name some players because that's how it works. There's contracts, cap space, player interest, chemistry, etc. All are variables that have to be accounted for. If you want to seriously discuss getting rid of Cat, you have to take that into account, otherwise you just sound like a guy who hates Mobley and could care less. As for him holding this team back, I haven't heard anybody on the TEAM grumble about this. The coaches are fine with him. The pros know what they are doing.
If I had a choice between Christie or obley I would pick Mobley . Why Offense Heart If Sacamento had Mobley taking that shot instead of Christie last year in the playoffs maybe they would be the champions this year. I would take a player with a bigger heart and desire then a pre-modanna type player anyday. Christie is a good player because he is a hard nose defender but everthing else in his game is up to debate. If he was so scared to shoot i nthat game why on earth was he in the game 1st of all and second of all why did he shoot. And don't tell me he ws in there to stop Kobe because we know how that tuned out. I blame Adelman for not putting B. Jackson in game 7 at the end of the game and overtime because the guy has heart and desire and he would've had the same advantage guarding kobe as Christie with the added manhood. PS: I know this post isn't about Christie vs. Mobley but from the reactions of the board members i think you guys would'nt hesitate to trade mobley for Christie.
I'm glad he's playing better then he'll be more marketable to other teams and maybe we'll go somewhere in the playoffs. True if he was injured, it would be a blow to the offense but replacing him with Francis and replacing the point guard position is a better solution than keeping mobley because (let's face it) Francis can ball but he isn't a point guard he's a shooting guard. and Mobley is good guy? he doesn't like yao... how many times does this have to be brought up before you realise that this disrupts team unity?
After Candian taxes get figured into the equation, he might have actually made more in Houston, than in Toronto. Texas also does not have a state income tax.
because i would just read the headlines on the page and never bothered to come to the bulletin boards till recently. sorry.
I dont mind getting rid of him but my question is for what?? Cat may be redundant and may cause friction between our players but he is still a decent SG. We need to get back something comparable in value for him. Any ideas? The most logical replacement would be either a true PG or PF. Not many of those out there that are obtainable in my opinion. Those on this board have gone through those scenarios millions of times.
I wouldnt hesitate to trade Mobley for Christie. Christie is bigger, makes better decisions, and (I feel) a better shooter.
Yeah, and Mobley holds them? he's about the same height as Steve and Francis is stronger than Mobley. Bring Kenny Smith back and, as old as he is, the rockets would still be better off. And the coaches are fine with Mobley? Dont get me started about the coaching.. granted the team is doing well NOW, but how long did it take for them to get there and how long will it last... Any decent pg will do.. you just need to get the ball over half court and into yao's hands down low or francis on the perimeter. GP would be perfect but we would have to get rid of more than just Mobley and I don't know if that is worth it because the rest of the rockets are pretty good
Christie is NOT a better shooter. He is a better defender and better passer than Mobley, but definately not a better shooter. Alirules, Christie was not the only one on the Kings who were scared to shoot the open shot. The entire team (including "superstar" Webber) except Bibby were scared. Adelman might have been wrong not to substitute Christie with Jackson. But he had a tough choice: Christie's defense or Jackson's offense?
I didn't see Christie actually stopping Bryant that game. He is a good defender but he didin't do anything to stop Bryant in hat game. They would've been much better with Jackson. The only reason I believe jackson wasn't in the game is because when both Biby and Jax were playing together they were getting outrebounded. Webber actually played well that game. He didn't take the big shots but he did everything else. Peja could not be blamed because he wasn't himself the entire 3 games. Vlade should'v never fouled out, but thats how it goes.
Even if he isn't a better shooter, he would bring more to the team than Mobley has and why would we need another shooter with Francis, Yao, Rice, MoT, and Griffin ( hopefully he improves).
