I don't want a trash talker like Jennings on the Rockets, talking trash about how the bucks would beat miami in 4 games lmao ....
Umm... because we're not LA? We have Harden (plus at the moment, Lin, Asik, Parsons), and we tell Dwight Howard we're working on fitting in Paul, and we tell Paul, we're working on fitting in Howard... their agents talk to each other... I don't think, 'They're not LA' ' figures into it.
Salary cap would work if we could deal Lin and Asik (17 mil next year) plus declining Garcia, Brooks and Delfino options (10+ mil). Plus the 12-13 mil we'd already have in cap space. That would be well over the 36 mil in cap space, the maximum amount we could offer for two max contracts. I don't believe S&T's exist under the new CBA so Lin and Asik would have to be dealt beforehand.
Yeah, I'm sure CP3 wants to come play next to a ball-hogging SG who selfishly insists on taking all the shots at the end of games no matter how bad they are. I highly doubt Harden's currently inflated ego could handle deferring that job to Paul. Not to mention CP3 is already in a system under Del Negro that hardly runs any plays in the half court, why would he come to another org that has a worse head coach and runs even less plays?
He said Bucks in 6. If you're going to mindlessly insult someone who is trying to stick up for his team instead of saying "yeah we're gonna get swept," at least get it right.
Do you want me to list all of the reasons? First they would have to throw away 30 million guaranteed dollars at the hope of getting that back. Second they would have to throw 30 million bucks. Third they would say adios to 30 guaranteed million. Bosh and Lebron walked away from a few million but nothing like that. That's the main reason and nothing more really needs to be said. CP3 and dwight Howard are not the kind of guys that do that. Okay if that is not enough for you than hear this. Miami had the cap space to force the issue with the opposing teams. Do a sign and trade or we get them and you get nothing. In the end both Toronto and Cleveland gave in because they are greedy and want something rather than nothing. More is better than less. Sign and trade doesn't benefit the player anymore. They still lose 30 million. If that is not clear let me rephrase it. Sign and trade still means the player loses 30 million. We do not have cap space. We have to negotiate with a team who has no real reason to negotiate with us and if they don't we can't sign one of the players unless we start trading players for nothing. It's doable but difficult. Also where is the history of buddyness. Bosh, Lebron, and Wade were buddies. They secretly talked about teaming up and winning together. I don't see any close friendships with these guys. Admittedly they could have a secret pack and have already decided to throw away 30 million for the chance at winning it all. But that is not very believable. Finally even if all of those scenarios work out and the players or willing to walk away from 30 million. Why come here? They are both in L.A.. It seems at least one of them will want to stay in the most coveted NBA city to play for by NBA players. Why Houston? We haven't done anything. People think Harden has that much power to make them move here. ha! You will see this summer Harden's influeence is a lot less than he thinks. We don't. The CBA punishes players who leave for another team. That wasn't true back then. Howard is not guaranteed s hit after this contract. He's already having injury problems. He may never be the same player and there is a good chance he won't get that 30 million back. Lebron was 2 years younger without injury issues and almost certain to get another deal. Howard does not have those guarantees. He might get some part of it. But that is still a risk. He is not They would both have to leave 30 million or so on the table. Bosh and Lebron left a little bit but not that much. In the end that's what it really boils down to. They are not going to walk away from that much guaranteed money. Ain't going to happen.
A few million? Try $15 million. Moreover, both were absolutely willing to walk away from the entire $30 million. Each committed to the Heat without a S&T agreement. In LeBron's case, in fact, he committed to the Heat with Cleveland steadfastly denying that they would even CONSIDER a sign and trade. Now, their teams agreed to it after the fact, because they'd rather get a late draft pick than nothing. But LeBron and Bosh had no guarantee whatsoever. Why were they willing to do that? The same reason CP3 and Howard would: because this isn't their last max contract. Bosh and LeBron were 26. Howard and CP3 are 27. The true elites are figuring out the dirty little secret to "extra $30 million": the difference is almost negligible when you take out that extra year, and if you're a Hall of Famer in your mid-to-upper 20s, you still have a 99.99999% probability of getting a max contract in that 5th year, even if you don't sign it now. Is there a 0.00001% chance that something could go horribly wrong and a 31-year-old Dwight or CP3 could have an incredibly serious injury and never be close to the same? I guess. There's also about the same chance that you or I could die in a car crash on the way to work, but we still go. At some point, the risk of the downside is so low that you don't let that scenario dictate your life. When you're a LeBron/Dwight/CP3, the "fifth year" is coming regardless. The only true difference (and it's a small one) is over the first four years, and factors like the lack of a state income tax and lower cost of living would render it negligible.
Its not 30 mill... Its an extra guaranteed year, considering he is gonna get another max contract he will get the same amount of years... If you take in taxes and cost of living(there is graph comparisons out there) he would make more money in Houston... Quit spreading this propaganda...
CP3 would be a much larger upgrade over our current PG than Dwight would over our current C, but I fear the diminishing returns Miami ran into their first couple years.
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By the way, an addendum to my earlier post: Why did the Nuggets trade Carmelo Anthony? Why did the Magic trade Dwight Howard? Why did the Hornets trade Chris Paul? A legit NBA superstar is the rarest commodity in all of sports. Why would teams give them up if the "extra $30 million" they could offer is so significant? The reality, of course, is exactly what I said a few posts ago: NBA stars in their mid-to-upper 20s know this isn't their last contract. That's why LeBron and Bosh committed to Miami without any guarantee of a S&T. That's why the Nuggets, Magic and Hornets were so convinced that Melo/Dwight/CP3 were leaving that they got whatever they could before letting them hit free agency. Those are the five most recent stars available. All changed teams, and all or most would have stayed put if the extra year were as important as Old Man Rock makes it seem.
Paul would be the guy I would want the Rockets to go after. Paul, Harden, Parsons, anyone, Asik would be a great 5, and the Rockets would have plenty of assets still to improve the 4. Not too mention maybe signing Milsap to a MLE contract, if he wants a good chance to win a title.
Thank you for making my argument for me (and OMR)! Let's see: Paul moved from NO to LA Melo moved from Denver to NYC Howard wanted to move from Orlando to Brooklyn, settled on LA What you're saying is true: 1. It wasn't their max last contract at the time 2. The guaranteed 30M wasn't enough to make them stay However: 1. This max contract COULD BE THEIR LAST. Howard's what, 27? He'll be 32 when his max contract ends, you think someone will still pay him the max till his 37? Maybe, but it seems unlikely esp. if he becomes injury prone. Same thing for CP3. 2. Those guys were willing to move because they went from low market teams to glamour cities like NYC and LA, just on exposure and endorsements alone they more than made up for the 30M. What you're saying is the opposite, those guys would be willing to leave 30M on the table AND go from a glamor city to Houston, where they'd have to play on someone else's team. 3. CP3's case is extremely unrealistic, he's running the show in LA and his current team's better than the Rox. Why would he leave that and go play for Houston, when if worse comes to worse he can go and get LA Clips to trade Griffin for Howard?
