ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Thunder 4/21/2013 (Playoffs Round 1, Game 1)

See this is the issue with people today. Telling the truth or stating the facts on a particular persons weaknesses is not hating. No matter how much work he puts in or good deeds he does either he will reach his own personal goals or he won't. As far as the rockets go I want to see them win a championship. The same mindset I had when Yao was here. I admire his personality and the good things he did all the hard work but the goal in my mind is Houston Rockets NBA Champions if you aren't there or going to get there then move around with your moral minded thoughts. Everyone knows Lin has lots of fans and he will always have lots of fans but most of those fans will love him no matter what I'm not hating on that... So don't hate on the fact that he may not ever be Rocky Balboa and defy all odds to get the championship in the reality of life in the nba playoffs. That's all I'm saying.

 

Nice post.

 

What you said are neither truths or facts, they are your opinions. I respect that but I disagree with you.

 

Steve Nash and Tony Parker showed signs that they were really great/superstar potential great in certain areas of their games right off the bat. Lin just has the potential to be good. It's a difference but you have to have a eye for the game to see that or even know what I mean. Lin is severely poor in crucial areas where a point guard just can't be poor at. At the end of all three of these players careers Nadh, Parker and Lin you will see exactly what I'm talking about and you won't even need numbers and stats to see it.

 

Of course there is still hope you got hope. All this will be revisited years later when you ignore the fact that I ever said this when it's seen to be true.

 

alright but give the kid a chance. We're not even one season into it and somehow you're Miss Cleo? Other people's hype of him shouldn't be held against him. Here's what a young tony parker did in the first 2 games of the nba playoffs in 2003 when the spurs went all the way. keep in mind the spurs were the #1 seed taking on phoenix.

Game 1 2-13....... 7 points, 7 assists
Game 2 1-7 ............2 points,2 assists.

If that was Jeremy Lin you'd be ready to run him out of town and say he's not ready for prime time. Parker had 9 games that playoffs with single digit points, there was even a game vs Dallas where he went scoreless and rotted on the bench because of poor play.

He laid a ton of duds that playoff run as will Lin. Just cause he stumbles doesnt mean he'll never be ready. Of course it doesnt mean he will rebound like Parker has and put it altogether, but let's not act like it doesnt happen.

It does to a lot of great players, that's how you freaking learn. Not everyone's LBJ and you just lead scrubs to the FInals.

 

Man, I agree, that Lin is NOT nearly a finished product, he has had 1 year as a starting PG, and will get better and better.

That being said, when he sucks, fans have a right to complain about it.

That is the nature of the beast.

DD

 

Probably been already mentioned but found the Clutchfans' salvo excuse for the loss. "The game ball got switched out in the second quarter after it went into the stands and a drink was spilled on it." -per ESPN.

 

Simu put, it's basketball either you got it or you don't. Lin can reach his potential that's possible but there are so many other point guards in this league that started off better by numbers and stats then Nash and Parker that ended up not even being remembered or a good to great player in this league. I've got no choice but to watch Lin as the years go by I'm a big Rockets fan but I've been one too long to fall for the Jeremy Lin hype. Seen too many players over the years that truly has everything it takes. Lin just needs to play smart and play hard with lots of confidence and hope for the best. He said after game one every shot he took he thought was going in and for whatever reason it hit back rim. That's just how it goes some nights and for some players careers but Lin has hope.

 

I'm just ready for Wednesday...

 

Definition of great/superstar potential can be subjective. IMO he has shown it when he dropped 38 on Spurs and Lakers, as well as the Linsanity stretch. What impress me more is his improvement throughout the regular season. In the first half of the season his 3pt% was below 30%, but he managed to work on his weakness. 32.7% in January, 42.4% in February, 40% in March and 36.4% in April. Bear in mind that its his first complete year as a starter, and the way he is utilized as a player has been different from last year, where he used to be the primary ball handler of the team. 13.4ppg and 6.1ast are reasonable.

 

Pretty sure Parker won a championship in 2003.

 

When he was the same age Lin is now.

 

Oops sorry, edit. 3 Years younger.

 

Pretty sure the Spurs in 2003 was a much better team than the rockets is now.

 

With Duncan, Robinson, a veteran finals presence in Kerr, and Pop as head coach.

Not sure what point you're trying to make?

 

The Spurs in 2003 was already a championship team.

They won the Championship in 1999 (behind Duncan) and already had multiple 50+ winning seasons.

97-98 56-26 - 2nd round loss to Utah
98-99 37-13 (shortened season) - Champions
99-00 53-29 - first round loss to the Suns
00-01 58-24 - loss to Lakers in WCF
01-02 58-24 - loss to Lakers in 2nd round
02-03 60-22 - Championship

It wasn't like Tony Parker showed up and they were suddenly a contending team. The Spurs were a Championship contending team for 4 years prior to Parker.

It's not really a good comparison.

 

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-That's because Lin has been mediocre most of the season.
-Lin fans bash Harden constantly and they say they don't hate him, but when Lin get's bashed you're racist or you hate Lin.
-Leave it to Lin fans to try and lump together Harden and Lins performances, when Lin's been 100x worse.
-Harden's more efficient and is two times the playmaker.
-Kobe is 34 years old, Wade is 31. You realize what the future is right?
-Hardens been one of the most efficient players in the league on high usage, and led the Rocket's to their first playoff berth in 3 years. I used facts for that as well.
-Lol@ saying Harden isn't clutch. The guy has come through so many times in the 4th. And trying to credit Lin for Hardens 46 point game, really? Harden was on FIRE, and from what i remember he created...
-Harden was dominating in the first quarter, his game was noticeably affected by the knee bump with Scola. He was much slower and limping during timeouts the rest of the game.
-Harden's looked off since the knee bump.
-What indicates that Harden has a big ego?
-Kobe isn't an elite defender.
-Harden handles the ball as much as he did last night all the time, and guess what he doesn't usually have 9 turnovers.
-If Lin did this then I would imagine that the same people who are chastising Harden right now are the same ones who would be saying "Oh it's just one time. "
-Harden's a more efficient scorer than both and probably just as good or a better playmaker than both.
-Why? Because Harden is a 23 year old superstar with enormous upside
-Harden's season high in FGA is 24, and hes hit that once. Kobe has broken 40 once, 30 4 times, over 24 21 times. They lost 13 of the games in which he shot over 24 times, so i'd say Kobe has shot his team out of a lot more games.
-Harden was great the entire 20 minutes. If he hadn't been in it wouldn't have been close at the end.
-Yeah Lin didn't have anything to do with it.
-lmfao

LMFAO

 

Does anyone think Brooks should be used in situations where our inexperience just seems to pour out? I mean, this guy was one of our leaders in offensive product and played to the 2nd round of playoffs. He has the experience and ability to play at this type of pressure. Lin clearly struggled, hell our team as a whole kind of struggled, and you kind of wonder, maybe playing Brooks could serve as a tiny safety net just to let us get a hold of our reins.

We don't have that many players who have playoff experience to begin with, to just leave them on the bench when we clearly needed some direction, is well... tactless to say the least.

 

In my opinion it's hard to judge the coaching when the talent level on one team is greatly superior to the other. OKC had better players, more experience, and the home court advantage. The game was pretty much like I expected.