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The what's wrong with Harden thread

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Karolik, Apr 18, 2013.

  1. teebone21

    teebone21 Member

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    iso ball at top of key doesn't work. harden will just step back behind 3pt line and shoot on cue like a robot. He needs to add some diversity to his game this offseason because his lack of athletic ability is definitely showing.
     
  2. Rockets25

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  3. Rockets25

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    Harden was supposed to be in my last post but his numbers at age 23 are pretty similar to Kobe's. No time to panic.
     
  4. Karolik

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    How about actually responding on topic. Try looking deeper at the stats? Tell me what Kobe's percentages per month were.


    Right.
     
  5. meh

    meh Member

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    I am looking deeply. And I see this guy call Shaquille O'Neal on that team with Kobe that year. Seems this guy was kind of good.
     
  6. Karolik

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    He throws a strawman and you throw another one. How about staying on topic and talking about Harden's decline, not comparing his stats with Kobe Bryant. Last I checked Kobe didn't decline that year.
     
  7. Xsatyr

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    The offense was still pretty stagnant at times and discombobulated. The offense was still predictable. In the last three games Harden missed the Rockets did not score a hundred points. They shot under 42% in those games.
     
  8. Xsatyr

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    I am not going to compare Harden to Kobe bc he will never be that good. But Kobe also played with Shaq.
     
  9. kmav23

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    Its no Hardens fault...

    Kevin is telling him play ISO... his the coach....!

    ISO over and OVer so thats what kevin wants
     
  10. meh

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    And the last time I checked, it's much easier to play with the best player in the NBA. Remember when Harden didn't decline last year when he played with Durant?
     
  11. RocketFever

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    Huh, where the hell are you pulling these stats from? In the Orlando game we had 111 points and shot 45%, in the Clippers game we had 85 points after the 3rd quarter shooting around 46%, and then put the scrubs in the 4th, who only scored 13 more points, and in the 2/13 game against the Clippers we shot 44% and scored 96 against a top-5 defense.
     
  12. Bublanski

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    he saw his scoring numbers slowly dropping and didnt like it so he showed he true self and started chucking and refusing to pass to his teammates.

    When he does finally pass its with 5 seconds or less in the shot clock putting his teammates in a horrible offensive situation.

    His biggest problem and i was the first one to mention this on CF btw; is his blatant and shameless flopping instead of trying to make the shot. His first instinct is to flop instead of trying to make the shot is just plain pathetic.
     
  13. Xsatyr

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    I was looking at March games, forgot about Orlando. Also we played the Clippers when they were struggling.
     
  14. GoRox2013

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    Please stop saying he's wore out. Especially after having 3 games to rest a,few games back Kobe's amost 10 years older logging 40 minutes a game. If you gon call him a superstar then hold him accountable like one. He looks like a wussy throwing the ball around at end of the shot clock. The guy's lost
     
  15. jordnnnn

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    Up for explaining your thoughts on his 1st half performance?

    Not even trying to say he had a good game tonight, just genuinely interested on how you can possibly justify your theory on harden with the way he played in the 1st half and in so many other games this year.

    With that said I do somewhat agree that trying to draw the foul can backfire on you, I don't see how he can justify going away from the tactic when it got him the most FT attempts in the league. With more experience I'm sure he will get a better feel for what's going to fly from game to game, but he's still young and finding his way.
     
  16. carayip

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    Actually McHale does coach. His way of helping out Harden when he's struggling is to take out Lin so Harden can bring up the ball more and do more iso.
     
  17. xclearscreen

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    nothing is wrong with Harden. it's McFail's isoball game plan because he lacks any kind of set plays!
     
  18. xclearscreen

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    McFail is just an idiot. is it too late to turn Harden back into an efficient SG and Lin back into a playmaking PG?!?! that's all I ask. let the guys play at the position they're most effective at. and please, please, NO MORE Delfino defending PFs! it never worked and it lost us so many games!!!
     
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  20. carayip

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    A coach who loves isos or his best player loves to iso? Because I recall Harden also iso-ed as much in OKC and McHale didn't run as many isos last year.
     

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