And he still outperformed Bev when he was given his opportunity. You guys have said that Bev's been a big part of this team/played more mins than you expected/plays when the game is on the line, yet he still can't control the tempo or be asked to be the main facilitator. When he's on the court, the ball still goes through Harden or Lin. It was pretty evident over the stretch without Parsons. Even when Parsons was healthy, the ball mainly went through Parsons when Harden/Lin were on the bench. It's not just Lin fans who say this, other vets on this board have said the same thing. He's a GOOD player but he reminds me more of TD than Lin so IMO, the pre-Linsanity comparisons aren't valid. You can disagree and say whatever you want but at the end of the day, I'd rather choose Lin to run the offense/go with his court vision than Bev's.
Lin is an above average starter with big upside, Beverley is a good back-up with big upside, they're good in the roles they are in now, so are these Lin vs. Beverley e-wars really necessarily? They both know their roles, help our team win and I'm glad to have them both.
This is a good post. I think Lin is more well-rounded now, but Beverley is better for a specialist/niche role - defense. I hope both continue to improve.
It's just a subtle way for the Lin haters to bash Jeremy. Beverly is Ok as a back up PG but so would Tony Douglas or Aaron Brooks. In fact Beverly is probably worst than Douglas and Brooks.
Bev deserves all the credit in the world. I love what he brings. People are just defensive because they're upset at the incredibly unfair double standard there is against Lin by most posters. Not some here but most. Lin took over on his first run on NY, not as a starter but off the bench. He scored 20+ and willed his team to victory. Then given a chance to start, he broke records, scored buzzer beaters, destroyed teams, and averaged like 25& 8 in Wins when the entire season his team was losing with two all stars. And Beverley is comparable? Come on now, unfair. What's even more maddening is the fact that most posters don't even know how crazily unfair they've become. Really, it's maddening. And they have the nerve to start saying: "That's what they said about Jeremy," while never ever having given Lin any credit ever until he had to earn it again and again. But Bev gets the benefit of the doubt? I guess a few points here and there while providing the same defensive pressure as TD did, and all of a sudden he deserves so much more love, benefit of the doubt, and evidence of potential and is equal or comparable to Jeremy now. I love Bevs game but you guys are making me go on a rant as you guys make it like you are being fair and Lin fans are being biased when its the exact opposite. You guys never gave Lin love like you did Beverley. He had to beat your heads in with performances and still people hate and want him to be benched. But if anyone criticizes Beverley, watch out you're being unfair... Smh And I bet they still won't admit that they've been unfair to Jeremy or acknowledge that they've been incredibly skeptical of Lin. Just read below..
don't try to undermine Beverley to make Jeremy Lin look good. Jeremy Lin is a good player and it's damn evident. Lin has improved and any reasonable person would look at what Lin has done from the beginning till now and say, wow, this guy is the real deal. I had my doubts at the beginning, but he's improved, and i now see him as an important piece of our core. But don't disparage Beverley, or turn this into a Lin-hate issue. Beverley is a very good player, and he's young so you'd have to expect further improvement. I think he's one of the best backup point guards in the league and has played important clutch-minutes for us. Just accept that we are blessed with good pgs. don't hate on beverley because you are paranoid about Lin hate.
Lol it's funny how people say Lin fans are delusional or living in their own reality when they mention he has potential or he could be a Parker in a few years of experience but then when Beverley is claimed as the next Glove or has top 10 PG potential no one says a thing. Don't get me wrong, I like Beverley and think he's been really impactful in his time here.
I've said numerous times Harden/Lin is the Ginobili/Parker of the future. And I'm not dellusional! Spoiler Beverley= 6'1" Wilt Chamberlain, with more upside!
-nobody said beverely was a top 10 pg -one person claiming he is gary payton =/= other people's sentiments This is why we get annoyed by certain LOF (not all, but some) Imo, some Lin fans are too sensitive; We all think Lin is a good pg with high potential. But as soon as there is criticism about him... ---- A) "McFail no play Lin down stretch" ---- B) "Harden iso make Lin confidence 10%" ---- C) "Lin no get ball, how come lin no get ball" ---- D) "Beverely sucks!! he career back-up" (sound familiar Lin fans?)
It goes both ways, LOH's are just as bad if not worse. - If anyone criticizes Harden or McHale, they're automatically labelled as LOF's and by default they're not allowed to have an opinion. - If Beverley has a decent game (like 10 points), he's already better than Lin. Lin had what, 20 points on 42 percent shooting tonight? So a decent game, right? Imagine if Beverley or Brooks ever had ONE 20 point game on 42 percent shooting, there would be 7 new threads made calling to bench Lin. And you seem like a smart guy, so common man, I know you know this thread was made as a subtle shot at Lin. And for the record, I think even entertaining the idea of firing McHale after this season is dumb. Second year coach, at least 10 more wins his second year, with a while new roster.
This has nothin to do with LOF' and LOH's. This has to do with ROF'S and wanting the team to have more balance.
I admit i have been critical of Lin in the past, but that was due to his inconsistency early on. He has been better of late. Still dosn't change the fact that they should switch up the starting line-up.
Patrick Beverley needs to start against OKC. That is one way we will have success against them. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/5V42hPUFg0E" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
I wish he would. Lin just didn't look like right in the 4th Qtr. He was totally out of sync and probably pissed because McFail sat him so long after a relatively good 3rd Qtr and Rox was in control. McFail should just subbed him out after he made that turnover and let Bev finished the game. Although Bev is nothing special today, he is better than an out of sync Lin.
