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Jeremy Lin with Rockets > Jeremy Lin with Knicks

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tinman, Apr 6, 2013.

  1. DOLPHIN2k2

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    But by this logic, almost every rookie can put up these types of number given no one knows their game.
     
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  2. Steal&Deal

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    His turnovers are less than and shooting pct. greater than our all-star.
     
  3. Steal&Deal

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    Most of you guys had no idea what a great pickup Lin was and still don't fully realize it. But you're starting to see the light.....
     
  4. SC1211

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    Lin has been playing great lately.
     
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  5. Ultramagnus

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    i still like the "Linsanity" JLin in NY better.

    That guy took responsibility. That guy was a leader in the truest sense of the word. He led a group of bench players and non-superstars to W's. That guy played BIG.

    Here, he defers to the Bearded One. Not that that is a bad thing but... it diminishes how Lin shines. Harden needs a PG that can play off the ball and play like a SG. For a time, Lin sometimes looked "lost" and "out of his element" when he was not the primary ballhandler/playmaker.

    Not really sure if that has been fixed now.

    So yes, I still like the NY "Linsanity" Jeremy much much better.
     
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  6. Steal&Deal

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    So why do so many "team first fans" dump on one of their own players so often? Are they really any better than LOF's?
     
  7. Old Man Rock

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    That's not the question. Is he better now or then. ANd his answer is now because then he was able to play better because he was an unknown.

    Personally I think that is only a small part of the equation. When Jeremy did what he did the Knicks desperately needed someone to do that. And fortunately he had enough ability to do that. Unfortunately when Melo returned he took a lot of the ball handling role and and Lin's stats dropped and the Knicks faltered. That is pretty obvious. Just as it is obvious Lin's stats have been better when Harden is out. But neither of those examples truly answer the question if Jeremy Lin is better.

    IMO what answers it is Lin now plays very well with Harden on the court. He knows how to fit in the rotation when Harden is in the game, to get his shots when he sees he is open and to takeover when Harden is out. He is more rounded now playing better D and shooting better. With the Knicks his production clearly dropped off when Melo returned. But with the Rockets he has improved every month. He is now putting up numbers close to that stretch with the Knicks but more importantly he is doing it more efficiently. Since the all star break he has been shooting 3's at a 40% clip. Compare that to the month of November when he shot around 25%.

    Lin Is clearly better than the Lin of New York, but more importantly he is better than the Lin of Last month and the Lin of last month is better than the Lin of the month previous and the Lin of next year will be better than the Lin of now. And that is what matters. New York was stupid not to resign. Felton is not now or will never be as good as Lin going forward. I do not know his ceiling but already he has shown it is much higher than most of us expected and with his work ethic and talent I see no reason why it will not go higher.
     
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  8. nickg

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    There really is no arguing if he's better. If you put him back on that knocks team, or any team where he will dominate the ball he would put up some really good numbers. Would that team be in the playoffs? No. Well, maybe a small chance in the east, but probably not. He's played well outside of that first month. Consistency will come and he will improve as his role is expanded and defined. It helps that he's playing next to someone as good as harden though, with a good supporting cast.
     
  9. nickg

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    Alot of people overlook this. Yes turnovers can hurt you, but alot of the time they aren't that bad. As long as he's not getting the ball taken from him on the perimeter, its not too bad as they are usually high reward opportunities. The same could be said for harden. If you're a playmaker you're going to turn the ball over.
     
  10. DaGreatest

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    the NY Lin ---> More electrifying = style

    the HOU Lin ---> More balanced, steady = substance

    Lin had sick numbers in NY but that was more flash in the pan production, as of late here in HOU is more of what a consistent above average PG looks like.
     
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  11. Steal&Deal

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    Because of experience, JLin's all-around play is better than last year. His numbers are down because the SG plays too much PG for the team's good.
     
  12. torocan

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    You underestimate how weak the East is...

    37-39 clinches the 8th spot in the East. Houston's current record would have them as a 5th seed in the East and 1 game behind the 4th seed.

    It wouldn't be as good a team with just Lin vs Lin + Harden, but in the East both teams would be play off teams.
     
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    Still wondering how in thunderation did the Lin of New York and the Lin of Houston get undrafted.....
     
  14. kholdphlames

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    I see comments about Lin being less athletic, and I would have to say his vert suffered quite a bit after the injury. However, as I see it, Lin is the fastest Rocket in the open court, as well as having the fastest first step. That said, his ball handling ain't worth squat relative to most PGs. What I want to see from him is a better crossover and overall handle.
     
  15. rockets137

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    wow really bro ?!? and you have to defend Lin all the way with your nonsense logic.
    sometimes I wonder, are you that kind of haters who disguise themself as annoying Lin fans just to make peoples around here put their hatred on Lin as person.
    Crazy right but nice try bro, the moment couldnt be better than now, just when Lin gettin more love lately... keep posting that crazy **** and you will get more love around here
     
  16. Hrock

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    It kind of does blow my mind that Lin didn't get drafted, not even in the 2nd round. Albeit he had to improve on some things over the summer after his first season in the NBA riding bench, but there were worse players drafted ahead of him. Even in the 1st round.
     
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    His production dropped off during the period after Carmelo came back but before Woodson took over. This was during the period when Carmelo, by inspection and later by admission, was dogging it. After Woodson took over, before Lin got hurt, they went 5-1, with a 15 point average margin of victory, three games against playoff teams, and Lin had, again, one of the highest point guard PERs in the league. Teams never "figured him out", as some folks claim. Just like this year, where Lin is averaging like 22 points a game and Houston is 2-2 when Harden is out, including 2 Clippers and a San Antonio game, Lin's box score production has always been dependent on internal team factors, not his talent or skills. Lin definitely is a much better player this year, but the box score won't show the extent. Houston's pythagorean wins show it though.
     
  18. VanityHalfBlack

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    I'm not sure if he needs to do all that. Just post them fools up, Lin is strong enough to pull that fadaway jumper and KABLAM!!!! SWISH!!!!
     
  19. hali

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    Sure hope so

    He has played one more year. If it is other way around, than it will be very sad.
     
  20. tinman

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    it's not logic. it's what happens in the nba.
    that's why they have scouts and coaches.
     

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