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Homeless man wins lottery, but wants to stay in his tent

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Sadat X, Apr 6, 2013.

  1. CourtOfDreams

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    DING DING DING
     
  2. Air Langhi

    Air Langhi Contributing Member

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    tallanvor sounds like a a real *******. 25% of the lottery goes toward education and with the way some state governments are cutting education budgets that money is greatly needed.
     
  3. tallanvor

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    An ******* to who? It is my earned money. The homeless man lives off money earned by others (I am assuming he doesn't have a retirement account).

    Just simply wrong. Maybe you misspoke.

    If it is tax payer money then I have no say in how it is spent.

    the very definition of charity is to 'help' the other person. If they smoke rocks with the money given to them or gamble it away (this one individual was lucky) then they haven't been helped. If they eat food or cloth themselves then they have been helped.

    What does that have to do with the price of bread?

    It angers me that someone would have the nerve to gamble with money given to them to feed and cloth themselves. radical I know. I'll stop posting on the matter, someone else can have the last word.
     
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  4. Rashmon

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    Looks like a pretty good investment of a dollar.
     
  5. vator

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    Homeless man be homeless?
     
  6. Major

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    Again, that's an assumption that has no basis. You have no idea his source of income.

    No, I meant what I said. If I give someone money, it becomes his money. I have no ownership of it, and he has every right to do what he wants with it. If I don't like that deal, I won't give him money.

    Who are you to decide if he's been helped? Maybe playing the lottery brings him joy. You don't get to define "help". If you don't like the kind of things he does with his money, don't give him money.
     
  7. rocketfan83

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    Guy has been homeless since 1978! Moses Malone was the leading scorer on the Rockets and I'm guessing 3/4 of this board wasn't even born yet. I bet he could have won a million dollars and he still want to live on the streets...
     
  8. blahblehblah

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    wow talk about a weird over reaction lol. Never would have guessed it in this thread... thats why i enjoy this board.
     
  9. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    I understand your point, however the poster's argument has been if someone says they are going to use the money for X and instead uses it for Y, he will be upset.

    Your last comment seems to support the poster's stance. If someone says, I need $100 in order to buy food for my family for a week. You say OK. At that point, do you have any problem with him going out and spending the $100 on alcohol and drugs?
     
  10. Major

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    Sure - but there is no evidence this happened. Again, we have no idea where he got the money to buy his lottery tickets. For all we know, he's gainfully employed.

    Tallanvor's concern was not with money being given for a specific purpose (food, housing, whatever) being used for the lottery. His concern was that a homeless person would use money given to him in general for the lottery (never mind that we don't know where he gets his money from). He consistently mentions this:


    If you loaned someone $100 bucks and they went to the casino with it, how would you feel?

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    He is 'being dumb' with others' money. That makes him an *******.

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    MY anger is justified as someone is wasting money I worked for that I could of spent on other things (i.e. feeding starving kids in Africa or curing cancer).

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    Then would you be so nonchalant about someone gambling with this money you gave them? Being angry over someone wasting your earned money is completely rational.

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    the very definition of charity is to 'help' the other person. If they smoke rocks with the money given to them or gamble it away (this one individual was lucky) then they haven't been helped.
     
  11. tallanvor

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    Wrong. Don't speak for me.

    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=7817434&postcount=43

     
  12. The Law

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    If he uses the money to move out of his tent how is he supposed to support his drug habit?
     
  13. LCII

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    tallanovor, just stop. Major owned you in every way in this topic.
     
  14. Mac#5

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    It doesnt say anywhere in the article that his son is still a child.
     
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    It doesn't matter. You're stating facts where tallanvor simply doesn't care.
     
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    To me...once the money is given to him, it's his choice to do with it what he wants. Whether you agree or disagree with what he does, he has the right to do whatever he wants.

    If you want to give him money to cloth or feed himself, just give him clothes or food. If you don't like the way he spends the money you give him, just don't give him money. But you can't get angry with somebody for spending money (yes, it's his. Once it is given to him, it is no longer yours) on what he wants to spend it on. You can be disappointed and disagree with him, but it's his choice.

    You're making the conscious decision to give money to somebody who clearly hasn't made the BEST life decisions, so you do have to take that into account as well.
     
  17. Sadat X

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    Man what a thread!
     
  18. RedRedemption

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    Money lost is still money lost. Whether the homeless man pays for food or spends it on drugs you're not getting that money back so stop being a sore loser over it.

    You are not given power to control what your taxes go to. That's what donations are for, donate all you want to cancer research but it seems like your main gripe is over paying taxes.
     
  19. Jontro

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    Didn't watch the whole movie, but what I got was (and probably creating a lot of echoes) tallanvor is upset about the fact that the man is wasting tax money on lottery ticket. The same tax money tallanvor worked hard to earn every single day.

    I see where he's coming from, but shouldn't the gov't be the ones to blame, and not this man?
     
  20. RedRedemption

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    The alternative is that there is no welfare and homeless people start rotting in the streets. Taxes to sustain welfare are a necessary evil.

    Punishing all for the actions of one is irrational.
     

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