1. but you haven't committed suicide, so your actions tell the story that you do prefer to live. 2. Good -- you admit that your political agenda is driving your belief, and serves as a motive for you to lie. 3. In your post at 11:25am CT today you mocked Christians. How can you possibly argue this point? That "something that never exists" became YOU. Contraception is another story since it prevents the fertilization of an egg.
You don't get to use words like "murder" and "money grab" and then claim that you weren't judging. Cute...nice try.
Seriously? lol I'd love to meet you. 1. You completely ignored the second part of the first response. Choosing to continue living my life does not meant that if given a "choice" (which is impossible), I would have chosen to been born. 2. I put political agenda in quotes because that's what you called my feelings on this matter. I don't have a political agenda. I'm trying to shine some light in the ideological cave some of you live in. 3. This is absurd. I wasn't mocking the faith. The notion presented in those ads is ridiculous. Do you agree that most unwanted children will not grow up to be very rich and successful athletes? Also, "I" did not exist until after a certain point in my mother's pregnancy. You can argue at which point, which I'm not going to do. Her having an abortion prior to that point would have prevented my existence. Abortion will prevent a possible human existence. Contraception prevents plenty of possible human existences. If you are against abortion at any point in the gestation period, then logically you must be against contraception also.
This is full of lies man. You compared having an abortion to cutting your hair and saying "what's unpleasant about that?" Now you are back-peddling. Your original post is judging this woman for suing the clinic. You don't even know what she is suing for - you just read the blog. It's terrible. You just accept the right-wing line for the truth - there is no critical thinking going on in you.
Don't waste your time debating with that fool. He doesn't have the ability to construct any kind of philosophical or logical argument because he only knows what his religion and cultural cave has taught him. He is mocking the way you feel and think, and will belittle you more and more as you continue to find holes in the weird reality he has constructed for himself.
Possible, yes. Likely, who knows? Do you think the child in this story will have a childhood like yours? Me neither. So the abortion of that young life would have been a travesty.... by the standards of your motivating factors. I'd rather be a child born into a horrible circumstance and have the option to run away rather than be killed in utero. As I indicated if people would be responsible for all of their own choices, this would be a better and safer world.
I didn't use the term "murder" but the blogger did and one of the other posters did. Not me. Money grab is glib not judgmental. If it's not a money grab, what is it?
No, I compared your dismissal of a blastoma (a clump of cells) to the clump of cells that I truly do discard with glee when I cut my nails or hair. I compared "your" idea of abortion, not "mine." ... and then you tell me to quiet down and back off because the abortions of these blastomas are gut-wrenching. So which is it? Do others fret when they cut their nails or hair? Should I? See, no matter how many times you say it or write it, that abortion target is not just a clump of cells-- otherwise it would be easy for everyone. Nobody would need couseling. Indeed there would be no law restricting it, would there? Can you still not read? I read the blog and several news stories. Since when is criticizing someone (money grabbing) judging them. Judgment has some weight or teeth behind it, i.e. incarceration or hell or something! Everyone has a right to criticize.
People who file suit for the money are the worst. I much prefer the lawsuits asking for a time-out or harshly-written note.
When you say she is making a money-grab - got news for you mate - that's a judgement, not a criticism. You don't know it's a money grab. You are passing a judgement that it is. Abortion is abortion - there is no difference in defining the procedure. I say a blastula is a blastula. Most women don't feel terrible about that. This woman has a fetus and that's not a blastula. So I am confused as to what you are talking about. I suspect that you are backpeddling, but maybe you are just careless with your language. Either way, tighten up!
The distinctions you draw are important. A blastula is different from a fetus. The case law supports that distinction. That is why the law is very different for a first trimester abortion than for the second or third trimester. To many, due to religious beliefs, there is no difference. Scientifically, the question becomes very different as the pregnancy progresses.
So what punishment shall I mete out? Didn't know I had the power. You are confusing a "judgment" with an "opinion." Maybe all along she had a baby? That is a possibility, you know. BTW, I compared your and my "idea" of abortion, i.e. the way we think of it. Those are almost never the same. About what? The above? All of the distinctive language has been introduced by you. I don't care if you call it a blastula or a fetus or any other category you wish to assert. It's a creation of two human beings coming together and if will produce a human child-- born dead or alive. Do you dispute that?
Glib? Hardly. There are two types of suits...meritorious and frivolous. The term money grab is commonly used to describe a frivolous suit. You made the judgment that her suit is frivolous. Now you are trying to back peddle by claiming it was a joke? I'm not buying it. Sure the word murder was used by the blogger. When you used that blog post as the basis for this entire thread and your clear stance against abortion, you give the appearance that you adopt the blogger's terminology and bravado.
