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Fixing Atlanta

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by xiki, Mar 6, 2003.

  1. xiki

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    http://espn.go.com/nba/columns/misc/1517977.html

    So, how do the Hawks fix this mess?

    Priority No. 1 this summer will be figuring out what to do with restricted free agent Jason Terry. The Hawks can't afford to sign him to a long-term deal for several reasons. One, their luxury-tax situation is already bad. Two, a long-term deal will kill his trade value. The best bet for Atlanta is to work out a sign-and-trade that packages Terry with a guy like Nazr Mohammed or Ratliff for an expiring contract.

    This smells like a great place for Rice to finish his career.
     
  2. Mr. Clutch

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    I wouldn't want any of their high priced players. We're in a pretty big mess ourselves.
     
  3. CriscoKidd

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    Terry has talent, no doubt, but he's the same player Mobes and SF is. No d, likes to shoot.

    We already have a high priced backup C.

    That would just make the rox push over the luxury tax in a few years and probly hurt chemistry more than help.
     
  4. xiki

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    Doing this gives the Rox a backcourt with two guys who can run the team or play the 2, and make Cat and Cato expendable for help elsewhere.

    Packaging those two would likely bring in some goods.

    The Rox will need to do something to keep up in the West, the conference which keeps getting better -- stronger and deeper.
     
  5. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    I wouldn't mind unloading Rice for Jason Terry. Terry could be the backup PG and be our NVE/Bobby Jackson spark off the bench. I really think that is something this team needs, is a third guard. I know Terry is VERY similar to Francis and Mobley but we still need a decent third guard. Just a thought.
    If Ratliff is in the package then try to move him or Cato for someone else.

    Or perhaps the Rockets could dump Rice for Shareef Abdur Rahim. Let Shareef be our starting SF. I doubt the Hawks would be that stupid to let SAR go, even for an expiring contract, but it wouldn't hurt to ask. ;)

    Chris
     
  6. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Rice for Terry and Rattlif?

    Where do I sign?

    DD
     
  7. aries323

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    SAR would be great, but he makes the MAX. No thanx. We already have SF making the MAX, and soon Yao will be making the MAX. Having three MAX players IMO has failed in the past... Miami for example. Jason Terry and Nazr sounds good though.
     
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    DD,

    I'm with you, but I think I'd try to get a 3rd team involved to trade Terry to.

    Ratliff could be a good, veteran, defensive-minded PF, though.
     
  9. Sane

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    If we're improving, shouldn't we add what we NEED?

    We'd still need a PG, even with Terry.
     
  10. Shot caller

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    <b>aries323 </b>

    Having Zo's kindey fail had a lot to do with that. The Brian Grant/ Zo fron court with Eddie Jones inthe back court would have been a tough team in the East.

    Zo's illness hung a black cloud over that team that they have never gotten out from under.
     
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    I don't know if it was that article, or another, (I'm too lazy to check), but the Hawks' GM mentioned that he talked with a lot of other GMs before the trade deadline and said the trades discussed would be re-visited in the summer.

    This is as I suspected. The Hawks made a jacked-up playoff promise to season ticket holders and will ride out this storm of a season before making their off-season moves.

    Sure, Shareef Abdur-Rahim makes too much money; but his contract is up after 2004-05. He could be re-signed to a Mo T/Rashard-type deal.

    I wouldn't be surprised if we re-visit the EG-Rice/SAR deal. Although we need toughness first, I'd rather be more like Dallas than the current team we have.
     
  12. Deuce

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    I think the Rockets will definitely look at options during the summer. I am a little skeptical about giving up EG (Rice is a throwaway) for SAR only so much as I don't think SAR is a legitamate full time PF in the West. I think in the West he is a SF. That is fine and we do need a decent upgrade at SF, but then we are really putting a lot of eggs in our basket with Mo T at the PF spot. If I was to do that trade I would also want to get someone like a PJ Brown as a FA to be a backup PF to Mo. Sort of like when we traded for Charles Barkley one of the keys was also getting Kevin Willis as a FA.

    I did know that SAR had a huge contract but did not know it ended so soon, 04/05. Like you said, looking at his production he could be re-signed for less. SAR is obviously not worthy of a max contract but he does put up decent numbers and is an interesting prospect. I think many feel he is not the kind of player you build a team around but rather is best as a 2nd or 3rd option type of player (which of course would be the case if he was here with the Rockets).

    He is only 26 years old and is averaging 20ppg, 8.5 rpg, 3apg is a career 46% FG shooter and 80% FT shooter, not great in 3pt shooting (29%) however (which seems to be a requirement for our SF). Has nice size at 6'9" and 240 lbs. He has some decent post moves and decent handles. I guess his weakness is his man on man defense. Anyone want to comment on his defense?

    My gut tells me that the Rockets wouldn't want to move Eddie in that deal as I feel that they think he has a lot of upside. On the other hand, looking at SAR stat's will he ever put up the stats that SAR has been putting up consistantly for the last few years? I think we all would be a little more comfortable moving Eddie in a package that netted us someone proven at the "PF" spot such as an Elton Brand. But SAR is an interesting prospect.

    Chris
     
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    SAR is an overmatched 4, but an effective 3. I think Terry would fit better. With either of their 5s. Bye Bye Ricey.

    If Atlanta would only see the light.
     

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