ClutchFans Game Thread: Pacers @ Rockets 3/27/2013

Except you can't even spell his name right.

Just saying.

 

Everyone's talking about how players can't play. I do not think that's true at all. The way I see it, we lost not because the players can't play or were cold as some says, but because we don't know what to do when our best options are taken away. That's really on the coaches to come up with a plan.

Didn't you all read the interviews? Even McHale didn't say something like we were not doing our stuff and the ball is sticky etc. It's pretty much Pacers came with a plan to take all the options away from the Rockets and they did just that. Rockets had to keep taking mid-range shots the whole game and had to post in to score. Their 3pters and driving options were all taken away. By doing so, they were dictating the pace. And it doesn't help that their strongest option of offense (post) is our weakest defense.

It's not just about Rockets playing poor. It's about Pacers being damn good at setting the pace right from the beginning and having a great game plan in.

I'm actually glad the Rockets experienced this kind of lost yesterday. They were playing what playoff defense is going to feel like. It's going to feel like every option is taken away from you, and you have to find counters to get new options. They can always look back at this lost and figure out different ways and strategies to handle in the playoffs.

I know there's no such thing as a good lost, but this is a great experience to take from the team to see what playoff defense is like.

 

haha. yeah, i always put that extra 'e' in there.

oops.

:grin:

 

Yeah, Rockets_Pride just broke my ignore list virginity ... OK, I'm sorry that's too graphic.

 

Exactly, everybody just chillax. It's the Pacers, the #1 Defense in the league. They hold every team and every superstar under their average PPG. That's what they do. Pacers Defense > Spurs > Grizzlies > Heat > Bulls. They milk the clock on offense and forced us to play half court basketball.

That's what they do, and it worked this time. The Rockets went on a scoring run when Hibbert and Hansbrough sat down. Once the Pacers starters came back in, the run stopped completely.

McHale kept going to the Harden/GSmith pick and roll, and when that got shut down he went to the Harden ISO.

McHale got outcoached by Collins, but then again Collins has had 2 seasons to work with his team and they buy into his system.

 

I won't call setting a poor state 6/24 an out coached condition.
I will call a dumb sitting on the court will even do better

 

6-24 for Lin will never happen, he won't get green light to shoot that many. Harden is having an off night after celebrate his player of the week reward but he will bounce back that what all super stars do, to bounce back.

 

I'll look at it once you learn to spell.

 

Last night

Last night was prelude to a prototypical playoff game...physical, low scoring, players decide game, not officials. Best team defense I've seen this year, taking away our strengths. Swarm Harden and force him to play hero ball or make others beat you...which they could not. Mavs employed same strategy with Chris Paul beating Clips on Tues.

On top of that Pacers are simply better than Rox - even at less than full strength. Just not a good matchup for us.

That's the blueprint - we better get used to it.

D R

 

Or maybe Collins' system is better than McHale's.

 

Be realistic, last night Harden is the one Rockets will get in the playoffs since he will not get all the calls he normally gets. ISO, ISO, and more ISO.

 

Yeah that's right. Lin can't handle any type of defensive pressure at all. He will turn the ball over even more in the playoffs. He's simply a liability and one of the reasons why the Rockets lost yesterday because he just wasn't effective at all.

 

Harden constantly looks for his own shot because Lin constantly hesitates to shoot. That's balance right there, so no complaints.

 

just a sidenote -- the Pacers coach is Frank Vogel -- Collins coaches the 76ers. Not that it's very important but it just feels like there's a general trend of Vogel being completely overlooked or simply unknown.

 

Wow you're a blind hater, why would you say something like that? No players should go 6-24. And besides, why would you choose Harden going 6-24 over another player going 6-24? It's not like it matters.

 

First of all, when someone says the game turned at a certain point, it means from that point on the team stopped the slide or the bleeding, & started to narrow the deficit or the gap SIGNIFICANTLY. However, last night's game did not turn at the 6min mark of the 1st Q. Instead, the gap widened to 16pts at the end of 1st Q & further extended to 19pts in the 2nd Q. That's not turning the corner midway thru the 1st.

Secondly, you mentioned that "Once McHale started making substitutions, we played the Pacers to a draw." Coaches don't made substitutions or changes to gameplan in order to play their opponents to a draw. They play to win. Any time you play to a draw, after trailing the 1st few minutes, that's a failure, not even remotely a success. You see, the problem with you is that you just ignored the possibilities that the coaches could have handled the things better than they were which could lead to a different outcome. If everything is so predictable, then there really is no joy or fun in watching sports.

Bottom line, the Rockets lost. This is a team sport and when you lost, you lost as a team. No matter what the coaches did or did not do, the Rockets got out-played & out-coached. It's just the reality of sports, the final outcome dictates if the players or coaches are successful or not. So don't tell me his substitutions were successful when the final outcome is a lost.

 

Woah I see there is a new poster who has decided to share his wisdom with us. And look guys he puts the team ahead of any one player, Rockets Pride you dumb LOF's!

I'm just trying to figure out which poster he originally was before he snapped and decided to create that handle. It's obviously someone who's been around here before.

Yo RP, you're not saying anything new so no need to create a new username.

 

Fixed.

 

Hes an all star nothing more. Way to inconsistent and limited on offense .