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Thoughts on Bosh if Miami has to breakup their Big Three?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rox>Mavs, Mar 24, 2013.

  1. RedRedemption

    RedRedemption Member

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    Maybe we should trade Lin for a real PG?
    Seriously dude?
    I ****ing hate LOFs.
     
  2. ptealixpaint

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    No, they can keep that ugly alien.
     
  3. Little General

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    Who says he is a LOF?
    But it's true that Miami need a Center.
     
  4. fallenphoenix

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    i'm pretty sure he's talking about the heat
     
  5. DonatasFanboy

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    The Heat don't have to break up the big 3. Amnesty Miller, wait for the new revenue numbers --> in all likelihood, the Heat roster will be cheaper next year as far as actual money spent.
     
  6. Naija Texan

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    Miami would trade Bosh for Asik if we had a lottery pick or threw in either Robinson or Motiejunas. Bosh while occasionally bringing some scoring and small amounts of defense isn't that pivotal to the team and Asik would more then make up for the defense they get from Bosh. They would just need a fairly reliable scorer for 10-15 points after that.

    That being said, the idea of making Bosh a MAX player is foolish, most of the young and even vet big men in the Western conference would destroy him. Give me a draft pick or Kevin Love or Aldridge for our PF slot, but don't blow money on a guy that won't get you nearly as much production to be worth that money.
     
  7. RedRedemption

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    I thought he was talking about the Rockets and Omer.
     
  8. Luckkky

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    I see what you did there you POS
     
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    Penal structure examine eh?
     
  10. larsv8

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    Chris Bosh is probably the best PF in the league. I would love to get him here.
     
  11. Skyhoop

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    Agreed, this is the most reasonable statement I've seen. Everyone can see this. The Heat's biggest drawback has been that they lack a C. They've been forced to play Bosh at C. They would be so much better off if they traded him for a cheaper real C.

    Even last year, many said that OKC helped Miami out by winning the West because OKC didn't have the real threat at C that would most discommode Miami.

    Every team in the East is aware of this. One of the reason the Knicks went after Camby was to prevent the prospect of Miami picking him up. No one wanted Miami to fill that one supposed major weakness in their team.

    The Heat were so desperate for a C that they told Bosh to bulk up over the summer so he can play C.

    I have no idea why people are trolling and calling you a LOF when you've stated what is the most reasonable and best option available. Trade Bosh for a C.

    It helps them cover their main weakness and reduce payroll at the same time. They can probably get quite good value if they trade Bosh for a C.
     
  12. DonatasFanboy

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    The Heat need to fix their center problem for sure. Their current roster isn't working.
     
  13. Skyhoop

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    I think their doing quite well right now, quite in defiance of conventional wisdom. But if they're going to lose Bosh, it's best to pick up a cheaper real C. Many saw the Laker move to get Dwight Howard as a move to build an anti-Miami team by attacking the C spot, back during the early flush of the trade.
     
  14. wikiwiki

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    I don't understand how he could ever get traded from the raptors. He's basically like their mascot and all. It just fits for him to be a raptor.
     
  15. SunsRocketsfan

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    One plus we didnt have last time is greg smith...We need greg smith to lure bosh here...come on greg do some recruiting
     
  16. thekad

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    Sign Dwight. Trade Asik and T. Rob for Bosh.

    Lin/Harden/Parsons/Bosh/Dwight. Of course that would put the Rockets in the same precarious luxury tax position in a couple years.
     
  17. Rox>Mavs

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    Okay so I'd like some education on this. Admittedly I don't know enough about the CBA regarding exceptions in the new CBA, particularly for teams over the tax threshold.

    My understanding is the only way a team like the Heat can sign players (even if they amnesty Miller I believe they're still a tax team) is using the Tax Payer Mid-Level exception and minimum salary exception. (The bi-annual is no longer allowed for them in the new CBA).

    I think they could only use the Tax Payer Mid-Level exception on one Free Agent each year and they could only sign that player for $3 million and a max of 3 years while non-tax paying teams can sign for $5 million and a max of 4 years. If my understanding is correct then they could only add a vet at the mid-level this off season and another next off season for a total of two more vets at the mid-level ($3 Mil for 3 years).

    Assuming they amnesty Miller, they'd still be losing Chalmers, Battier and Ray Allen after the end of next season. That's 4 mid level players out with the ability to only add 2 (one in this summer's off season and another in next summers off season when all those guys expire).

    The following season they'd be losing Haslem and Joel Anthony. That's two more mid level players out with the ability to add only 1 more after the 2015 season.

    So after the 2014-15 season they'd shed 6 mid-level veterans and would only be able to add 3 more over that time at salaries and contract durations far less then what those veteran FA's could make elsewhere.

    Of course they can and would fill out their roster for minimum salary players but if I'm not missing something (and I think I probably am), after 2015 the Heat (if they were to keep their Big 3) could only have those 3 supermax guys + at most 3 mid-levels veterans willing to take less than what other teams offer + 9 minimum salaried players.

    So my assumptions are 1) tax paying teams in the new CBA can only add one FA to the mini mid-level each year 2) can still sign an and fill out their roster with the minimum salary of about $1.3 million/year max for each player.

    Am I missing something or can a tax paying team sign FA's or resign their players through any other exception?
     
  18. SkyrimOwnsAll

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    i see what you did there :grin:
     
  19. Metropolis777

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    This was my thought. Do we have the flexibility to make that happen? Of course, we wouldn't have the room to keep Bosh when he expires. But that team could win a title next year.
     
  20. Skyhoop

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    A team can ALWAYS re-sign current players, assuming they are willing to pay the luxury tax.

    The relevant exceptions in the case of re-signing players are Non-Bird Exception, Early Bird Exception, and Larry Bird Exception.

    So they don't have to lose any players from the roster, assuming they are willing to pay the luxury tax. Or they can pick and choose which ones they wish to retain.

    They don't have to lose Chalmers, Battier, Ray Allen, or anyone from the roster at all, assuming they are willing to pay the luxury tax. Those players can even be re-signed with raises.
     

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