Well well well... Who was that with 11 points/7 rebounds and a block tonight??

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[This message has been edited by TheFreak (edited October 24, 2000).]

 

Give 'em hell, Cat! Esp. about the one game business!

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Folks, this is just the tip of the iceberg. Jason Collier just started showing the type of game that he showcased at Georgia Tech. Stereotyping him as a "slow white lug" like some people who will go nameless was completely unfair and inaccurate.

The Collier I saw at Georgia Tech was one that really crashed the glass, played an inside-outside game and was excellent at setting screens and moving w/o the ball. Bill Worrell was commenting on how when Collier sets a screen, its like a brick wall. The type of defense Collier played tonight is all I ask of our big men. Hold your position, dont get faked out and make your opponent shoot outside his comfort zone.

I would hope that this performance merits Collier some more PT, but alas I feel Rudy will give KT the mins during the reg season. I'll give KT credit that he has trimmed down and become sleeker in build, but Im still not impressed with him. He still does not get in there and "bang" and is still pretty soft on defense. His offensive moves and passing ability look very smooth but thats about it. Collier can develop into the hard working player under the glass and the rock on the frontline that the Rockets need, he just needs to continue getting PT.

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First of all, I'd like to say that I was never calling for Collier's head after the first preseason game nor did I take significant anti-Collier notes during the RMR.

I bet some will point to the "Bust" thread, but once again I'd like to say that I always acknowledged that he does have some promise. Certainly, this is a step towards the right direction but as you said, it doesn't mean anythign just yet. If he can bring anything close to what he did tonight (in terms of play, anyway, not stats), I will extremely satisfied.

Anyway, boy am I glad that I didn't call for his head after the first game out of mere frustration.

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One more thing for the Collier fans:

IT's just too damn bad that the "one game wonder" theory will be highlighted by Bullard's All-Star performance.

When was the last time we saw the guy drain 9-12 for 22 points?

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I didnt see the game, but I gotta admit it - his numbers look good!

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Ok lets take a look at this. Detroit-What quality big men did Jason have to defend? Lets see at Center hmmmmm..... and at forward who hmmmmm cant think of anyone???

So of course we need to wait for some more games before Collier can be evaluated?

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I guess you should have put your disclaimer down with capital letters, bold, italics, another color, and a huge font.

It's funny how often we have to divert attention from the original point to cover things we have already said so many times before.

I guess once we have our convictions pointed towards one opinion, we don't catch such things.

Cat, I guess you should start looking for some posts which illustrate that opinion. That way the Collier bashers won't be able to hide!

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I'm an anti-Collier based on his prior performances. All because a guy has one good game I'm not going to hail to him as god.

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It was nice to see Collier have a less embarassing showing. To date he has reminded me of how K. Thomas looked last year. Wide eyed and very lost. While Ii have yet to see anything that would lead me to beleive that he will contribute as much as Kenny. I do feel that like Kenny he will find his way and contribute to the team. Whether he was the best pick the Rockets could have made can and should only be aswered at the end of the season. To speculate anymore than that on Colliers worth to the team this early in the season is a waste of time.

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This was the first good game that he had.


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cato13

Collier defended the same players your namesake did and did an equal or better job of it (including 3 fewer TO's).

Since you don't watch much Eastern Conference ball, here's a quick refresher course:

Jerome Williams: 1996 Pistons first round pick; 26th overall; #2 (behind Mutombo) in rebs per 48 min in 1999; very highly regarded on this BBS

Billy Owens: 3rd overall pick 1991 draft; career 12.3 ppg & 6.9 rpg

Ben Wallace: 8.2 rpg -6th in league in 1999 based on 48 min on a very productive Orlando team; 1.6 blocks/game - 9th in league on 48 min. basis (your namesake wasn't in the TOP FIFTY!)

John Wallace: Knicks 1st rounder in '96 after leading Syracuse to the NCAA Finals; 17 points in 21 minutes for Knicks last year vs Rockets

Eric Montross: #9 overall pick in the 1994 NBA Draft; NUMBER 9? ISN'T THAT WHERE PRYZBILLA WAS DRAFTED?

Even though these guys aren't household names, they are all NBA players with game. And the Rockets Rookie NUMBER FIFTEEN pick held his own. 15th pick? Funny, that's were Kelvin Cato was drafted in 1997.





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Yeah thats the same bum who we drafted. Wow thats amazing to score 11pts when Eric Montross is holding you