I've been on the Collier bandwagon for awhile but I know it's more of a wagon than a nitro-burning dragster. The Collier bandwagon does have a "reserve tank" (the Bucks conditional pick). Can we add Raef LaFrenz and Todd Fuller to the list of "less than buff" Caucasians? ------------------ GATER [This message has been edited by GATER (edited October 16, 2000).] [This message has been edited by GATER (edited October 16, 2000).]
Geeze, did we all forget the biggest AND fattest success? BIG COUNTRY! Mark Eaton was not exactly shapely....he had a nice career. Randy Bruer, Jack Sikma, Laimbeer, all those fools had successful careers. I think we have covered the "when was the last time..." question. NEXT! ------------------ There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
Yeah, but he asked for "fat" ones. You guys are off-topic. Jack Sikma, fat? Pfft. Come on... we want some FAT white guys. How tragic... ------------------ I got nothin'.
White doesn't matter. Fat guys are fat guys, and they all usually suck. You call big country a success? Just because he hasn't been totally rejected by the NBA (ala Roberts and Hamilton) doesn't make him a success. Most people consider his fat ass one of the bigger busts. But Collier is not fat compared to those guys, although, so far he does suck just as bad. ------------------ Kenny Thomas had a foul called on him in the Western Conference Finals.
Forget that bandwagon stuff. He's a rookie. He is gonna play rookie type defense. If he develops, give him credit. If he doesnt, we got a 7'er with a nice jumper and a first round pick to move up in next years draft. If the draft is as deep as they predict it will, then a lot of teams wont mind moving down because there will be so much talent. ------------------ I'ma need more than 6 and a half rebounds a game from the PF
He's a rookie without QUITE the range to be a 3 point threat in the NBA, no interior defensive skills, and no post skills. What exactly is there to be excited about? If his jumper was a bit better, I'd think he had a place. That's my only hope for Collier-to extend the opposing defense b;y improving his jumper. ------------------ Shandon Anderson rocks. The lottery sucks. Playoffs 2001.
...so hands up who's never really watched Collier play?? Collier HAS got a post game! He shoots a turnaround and a lefty hook, and he has nice footwork down low. Collier CAN play D - sure he's not showing any of that right now, but, believe it or not, one of his strengths at college was his ability to use his body to keep opposition players away from the hoop. Sure he's no intimidator, but he boxes out well! It took him a couple of years to adjust completely to the college level, I believe it'll take him a couple of years to adjust to the NBA level, but when he does he should be ok!! ------------------
DoD, Sikma was a big ball of baby fat. He was soft and squishy! OK, he wasn't fat....but he wasn't buff. How fat are we talking? The definition of fat is relative to what each poster thinks fat means. Stanley Roberts - FAT! Oliver Miller - HUGE! Thomas Hamilton - ROTUND! Oh, I forgot....I have to name caucasians? ------------------ There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
B Paultz MAngo ------------------ Test Your NBA Trade Ideas 1. Put new topics in the proper forum. Things happening in the rest of the NBA 2. Use clear wording for new threads. 3. No duplicate threads 4. Conduct yourself as an adult. The Serious Police are watching. Donate Blood or be assimilated!
I don't know what you guys are smoking inside that wagon, but while you smoking it, some indians are circling. And your going to get scalped! ------------------ humble, but hungry.
Hoop-T, Look at that paycheck he's getting. He SHOULD be putting up all-star numbers. After 5 years, making the money he is, he is a BUST. ------------------ Kenny Thomas had a foul called on him in the Western Conference Finals.
Hey comeone, it's not Big Country's fault that Vancouver paid him way too much money. The numbers he puts up aren't too bad, he's just considered a failure because expectations of him were so much higher! Let that be a lesson to us with regards to Collier. If we expect nothing then we won't be disappointed!!! ------------------
Jason Collier = a left handed Michael Doleac with better post moves ------------------ President of the Sir Charles Barkley Fan Club
There ya go. Now find some caucasian guys that compare and this thread'll be complete! ------------------ I got nothin'.
let the record show i've been on the collier bandwagon since day one. ------------------ "Isn't the purpose of the game to put the ball in the basket?"
