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Patrick Patterson vs. Thomas Robinson Tracking Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, Feb 27, 2013.

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Ugh. And you were doing so well this year Carl...

#21 desi tmac91, Feb 27, 2013

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In Patterson's last 11 games as a Rocket, he averaged (per game):

28.5 minutes, 14.2 points, 5.4 rebounds, 0.9 assists, 0.55 TOs, 60% FG (including 64-100, 64%, from 2 point range, and 7-17, 41% from 3 point range). He was also 7 for 9 (78%) from the line. His TS% was 64.5%.

You don't get much more efficient than that.

#22 Carl Herrera, Feb 27, 2013
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Can't look at it simply as trading Patterson for Robinson. Its like when we made the Alston trade for Lowry. That wasn't simply swapping Rafer for Kyle. It made room in the rotation for Aaron Brooks.

Think of it as we traded Patterson's position in the rotation for Motiejunas getting those minutes instead. And then we traded Morris's position in the rotation for Robinson getting those minutes. Better?

#23 durvasa, Feb 27, 2013

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The short-sightedness is absolutely laughable. Robinson played 8 minutes. Like seriously....8 freaking minutes and he's written off as a bust.

#24 J Sizzle, Feb 27, 2013
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Carl Herrera said: ↑

In Patterson's last 11 games as a Rocket, he averaged (per game):

28.5 minutes, 14.2 points, 5.4 rebounds, 0.9 assists, 0.55 TOs, 60% FG (including 64-100, 64%, from 2 point range, and 7-17, 41% from 3 point range). He was also 7 for 9 (78%) from the line. His TS% was 64.5%.

You don't get much more efficient than that.
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And you think that was sustainable?

#25 dharocks, Feb 27, 2013
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What did Patterson do against Miami Heat the other night?

#26 Cstyle42, Feb 27, 2013
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desi tmac91 said: ↑

Ugh. And you were doing so well this year Carl...
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I think this is a sarcasm thread by him.

He's not the one to overreact.

#27 JayGoogle, Feb 27, 2013

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The short-sightedness is absolutely laughable. Robinson played 8 minutes. Like seriously....8 freaking minutes and he's written off as a bust.
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Those were 8 terrible minutes for the Rockets, though. Its going to be a while before Robinson helps you win games, I feel. Not out of the ordinary for rookies (even top 10 selections), either.

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durvasa said: ↑

Those were 8 terrible minutes for the Rockets, though. Its going to be a while before Robinson helps you win games, I feel. Not out of the ordinary for rookies (even top 10 selections), either.
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I agree. But that's my point. If 8 minutes is all somebody needs to see to label him worthless...they are laughably short-sighted.

Give the man some freaking time. Certainly more than 8 minutes...

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We flipped PPat for Moti's minutes and cap flexibility- any production from Robinson and his rookie deal is gravy.

#30 Charlatan, Feb 27, 2013
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dharocks said: ↑

And you think that was sustainable?
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Should it not be? He wasn't doing anything amazing. Just taking easy shots created often by teammates drawing attention. A steady diet of open 12-15 foot J mixed in with a few dunks and layups per game and that's what you get for knowing where to be in the offense.

#31 Carl Herrera, Feb 27, 2013
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I can't tell if CH is serious with the patpat threads

#32 apollo33, Feb 27, 2013
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Carl Herrera said: ↑

Should it not be? He wasn't doing anything amazing. Just taking easy shots created often by teammates drawing attention. A steady diet of open 12-15 foot J mixed in with a few dunks and layups per game and that's what you get for knowing where to be in the offense.
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No, I don't think he was going to continue to shoot 60% from the field. It was a nice hot streak though.

#33 dharocks, Feb 27, 2013

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SC1211 said: ↑

You're better than this, Carl.
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He is?

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We need rebounds, not 3 pointers.

We know rookie Robinson is a project.

We still have Donuts and Jones to step up.

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#35 napalm06, Feb 27, 2013
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napalm_black said: ↑

We need rebounds, not 3 pointers.

We know rookie Robinson is a project.

We still have Donuts and Jones to step up.

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Jones hasn't played at all after the Allstar break... I don't mind Ohlbrecht...
get this machine rolling again

#36 daywalker02, Feb 27, 2013
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Carl Herrera said: ↑

In Patterson's last 11 games as a Rocket, he averaged (per game):

28.5 minutes, 14.2 points, 5.4 rebounds, 0.9 assists, 0.55 TOs, 60% FG (including 64-100, 64%, from 2 point range, and 7-17, 41% from 3 point range). He was also 7 for 9 (78%) from the line. His TS% was 64.5%.

You don't get much more efficient than that.
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I can never tell when you're being serious or not. But I'd really like to think a normally intelligent poster like yourself would understand why the trade was made and why teams all over the league are jealous of Morey for being able to pull this deal off.

This trade didn't cost us a championship. Time to move on.

#37 Zergling, Feb 27, 2013
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The problem now is that there is no midrange game for this team. Everything is either 3 or layup. Patterson himself was not so talented, but what he provided in terms of offense was valuable because no one else on the team can do it.

#38 nono, Feb 27, 2013

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Zergling said: ↑

I can never tell when you're being serious or not. But I'd really like to think a normally intelligent poster like yourself would understand why the trade was made and why teams all over the league are jealous of Morey for being able to pull this deal off.

This trade didn't cost us a championship. Time to move on.
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It is a reasonable long-term bet: pay $1 for a 50% chance at $2 and a 50% chance at $0.

But while it may not cost us a championship. It may well cost us a playoff berth this year.

#39 Carl Herrera, Feb 27, 2013
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