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McHale "(Lin) rather have 29pts and 9 TOs, I tell him 'we wanna win'""

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Lucky Charm, Feb 24, 2013.

  1. pnr

    pnr Member

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    He also wasn't getting paid 8 million plus for his services. If that's the role the FO and coaching staff want out of him (not saying that's what they think), then they should just try to dump his contract for scraps and get a player for half the price to perform that role.
     
  2. RockingRox

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    Funny, because whenever I see quote-unquote, I thought what's in them are the exact words people say.
     
  3. holly1985

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    Then the Rockets should brought someone else in last offseason. I assume it's actually good for Lin. He got to practice his weakness a lot in actual games. And it's not his contract year. So he doesn't need to worry about his number too much.
     
  4. AggNRox

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    what you try to say is everyone except star of a team has to do exactly same as what battier is doing. do you know what he is doing is what he is best at? it means all his coaches know how to utilize his strength instead asking him to be a pg. a good coach knows how to use a player's strength instead exposing his weakness.
     
  5. muas2010

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    So you've talked with Shane and he said so from the very beginning? No top ten draft pick, in their right mind, will just say yeah coach put me in the corner? It's just not a Lin thing, but some players become great players by way of playing on the right team.....meaning being used properly. On a flip side, being a good spot up shooter will probably benefit Lin in the long term...as you age and become less quick that's nice skill to have.
     
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    When someone takes the time to put data together and charts it out, I gotta give props. Liked that you prefaced with small sample size.
     
  7. mike_lu

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    Just end this thread.

    It's from NY newspaper which is unreliable at best.

    And coaches have been known to call out players in public, especially PGs.

    If true, is it warranted? No, of course not. And is a coach allowed to want the PG to play it conservatively? Sure. If he prefers Harden to be the one doing most of the risk taking because he's a better finisher ... that's fine also.

    It's not like McHale has a lot of players he can publicly to call out. James Harden? Superstar production offensively. Omer Asik? Holds up our defense. Chandler Parsons? Way outplaying his contract. Carlos Delfino? Ditto (and no upside and unlikely to change). Rookies DMo, Beverley? Too harsh. Anderson? Not enough minutes to get backlash. Greg Smith? Sent him right back to DLeague to put him on notice. Jeremy Lin? Not so warranted, but if you had to pick a player ... would probably be him. Just read clutchfans ... could've been worse.

    (BTW, as an aside, Jeremy didn't play poorly the last two games. His shots just didn't fall. He took the right ones, and enough to keep the defense honest. But they didn't fall. Perhaps flu had an impact, perhaps just off games. Harden, on the other hand, takes some really bad shots. But he makes enough of them to warrant it. He's just that strong and good. So it is what it is).

    But it's much ado about nothing if the only source "quoting" this was from the NY Daily.
     
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  8. SuperStar

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    Winner, Winner, chicken dinner.
     
  9. Second_Cousin

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    But Lin camping out at the baseline doesn't help us win... Battier is the 4th or 5th option on the Heat and he should have a specialized role, ie spot up shooting, taking charges, pulling rebounds. The last time I Becker Battier is not a PG. No starting PG in the league is instructed to just hang out at the corner like that. Don't even bring up Harden because even when he sits, Lin is told to spot up there. No PG in the league is criticized by his coach for scoring 29 points to help WIN A GAME.

    If you want him to JUST be a role player, just a spot up shooter like mchale wants him to be... then I don't wanna hear how he is not scoring enough or not facilitating enough.
     
  10. flamingdts

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    Oh please, and you have spoken to Lin and knows what he likes and doesn't like to do on the court?

    Most players in this league are role players, and good role players are ones that excel at what the team needs them to do. In Battier's case he excels at defending, spot up shooting and many other little things. They call him "Mr. Intangibles" for a reason. There is nothing wrong with that.

    No that's not what I said. Don't put words in my mouth.

    I said there is nothing wrong with being a spot up shooter, or excelling and specializing into one.

    Lin can specialize in spot up shooting when Harden is on the court, and act as the primary ball handler and playmaker when Harden isn't.
     
  11. manning

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    i don't trust the mass media, especially NY media...let's see what will happen.Hopefully with the time off, Lin can get over his cold and bounce back in their next game…
     
  12. muas2010

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    Please don't go there....did I say anything about Lin not like camping there like you did with Shane? There is no speculation on my part...that's the difference.:rolleyes:
     
  13. RioFan

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    From the New York Daily News Bio:

    The Daily News is the 4th best selling paper in US, it's not the Bleacher reports.

    http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/media/2011/11/3970412/journal-times-and-news-among-top-five-biggest-selling-papers-us-post-n

    I bet you the reporter has McHale's statement on tape.
     
  14. muas2010

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    I don't trust any media....as far as he said she said stuff. The only thing that doesn't lie is the final score...even then NBA.com sometimes is slow and not up to date.:grin:
     
  15. flamingdts

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    Can you not read?

    I said Shane Battier doesn't mind doing what it takes to help the team win.

    ":rolleyes:"
     
  16. Deckard

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    You have 50 posts in this thread that all say essentially the same thing. Give it a rest.
     
  17. napalm06

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    NY tabloids are the ones that turned everyone against Machado for a while when his comments, taken alone, weren't malicious.

    Fast forward a few months: who is Machado again? :)
     
  18. muas2010

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    Like wise...did you ask him? It's just your opinion ie speculation....that's my point.:rolleyes:
     
  19. timyeung

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    The problem we have here is that Coach McHale and Jeremy Lin have different mindsets about how Lin should play basketball.

    McHale wants Lin to make low risk passes and low risk plays. He has stated before he does not want Lin to make home run passes. He wants conservative PG play, and he does not want another Linsanity (much to the dismay of Lin fans). Fans have complained to McHale why bench Lin if he is playing hot?

    Jeremy Lin however wants to make the risky pass if the reward is high (ie. easy two points). No risk no reward. He wants to play aggressively and take calculated risks, because that's his basketball mentality. For him, this worked well during Linsanity in NYC, with wins. When he is feeling hot, he definitely wants to stay on the court, but it is not his choice.

    As a fan, its tough. We can understand McHale wants to teach Lin to become a more consistent PG. But when Lin is hot, we really want Lin to stay on the court and do his thing, because that's exciting basketball.
     
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  20. AggNRox

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    why does he have to be a spot up shooter? this is not his strength. harden is much much better than lin as a spot up shooter. harden made tons of wide open 3's.
     

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