Yao Ming and the Mobes and Franchise Show................

But, one man can help the team and Yao is a big help.

 

Yetti, you have a point. We are and will be a guard-oriented team. Our guards are so talened and hot that they will and should continue to take the majority of shots. We need our other players to be role players and complement them, not take their shots away. Our center should just play defense, get some rebounds and then shooting 2 times per game is enough. Cato can do those jobs better than Yao. Ship Yao out now to a team which need him more than us so that we can upgrade other areas of our team.

 

ROTFLMAO! this is one of the funniest posts i've read in quite a while. excellent use of (understated) sarcasm. ... still chuckling over it

there are some valid points/criticisms to not getting yao the ball. when i saw the box score i kinda went "WTF! not getting Yao the ball enough... again..." sports center kinda made it look that way too.

that's when reading this BBS helps, as for the greater part it removes the BS from the highlights/mis-informed opinions. SC loves to bash the rox in any way, shape or form. I'm just happy we won, the suns lost & we got back into the playoff seedings. The Jazz loosing was a bonus

 

and thats why im glad he is a rocket

going into the season i was saying to my fellow houstonians that if yao can play d and rebound he is worth having... everything else will be gravy on the taters... and what sweet gravy we got. but what if(heaven forbid) something happens to yao and he cant play.... that is why 1 man can not make the team, the season is a long one this team had 2 guys that would score.. know we have 3, they will only grow better with the years ahead of them... thats why if we dont make the playoffs the sun will still rise, i will still be able to breathe... and by then all the dam bandwagoners will be gone so the true fans will smile that much more when we do win the championship with francis, mobley, and yao

 

Another Yetti thread where he praises Yao and bashed Steve and Cat.

Like death and taxes.

Yetti, you need to really look at some of the reasons why Yao is not getting the ball. Alot of it had to do with him. More and more, teams are fronting Yao and being physical with him. Why? Because 1) He is not strong enough to get into position and 2) When he finally does get position, he does not have the proper technique to seal off his man.

Quit often last night, yao fought his way around a front and was in position to receive the ball. However, the window of opportunity for him to receive the pass was only a sec or two because Battie would quickly work his way around the side of Yao to deny the pass. This happened because Yao could never seal him off to keep him from doing this. Battie wasn't truly fronting Yao, he was playing him more 3/4 for the sole purpose of denying him the pass.

There was a great quote posted where someone from the Rockets said they looked to go to Yao something like 30-35 times. Yao's teamates cant get him in position to receive the ball, they can only pass it to him once he gets that position. The rest is up to Yao.

That being said, that doesn't excuse Cat and Francis repeatedly missing a wide open Yao off the PnR. However, I can see why they are hesitant sometimes as its not always wise to hit someone that large on the move.

 

Well, Yetti and carayip have checked in...Where is kidrock8 lurking?

 

Sometimes I wonder if people even watch the game or do they just look at the box score.

 

Damn....If we won 82 games....81 by 20....1 by 19....there would still be people b****ing about how we didn't win that 1 by 20.

 

Horry and Kenny were the best but they even had troubles sometimes especially with the Sonics who played that illegal defense which is not illegal anymore. Yao was doubled before he got the ball every trip down the floor. Passing down into a double team is just plain stupid.

This is the first game since the all-star break that Yao didn't get his touches and everyone on the board is moaning.

 

Speaking of agendas, I think you just showed yours. Why does this have to be a Center dominated team? Especially when we have a center who doesn't seem at all interested in personal domination. Why can't we just have a team?

 

I call bull****.

 

The stupidest comment is that YAO is not strong enough to get into an inside position. How could he, without paremeter ball swinging and some screen help from inside??? Rudy even ran that no-center lineup again, not even CATO on the court!!!! That small lineup really sucks...

 

I agree with Codell and I think this discussion is a whole lot of nothing.


If Boston is double and triple teaming Yao What do you do???? Force if over three defenders or swing to the open man???

Yao played well yesterday because his presence opened up the floor for Cat and Steve. Do you honestly believe Cat and Steve would have gotten 60 without the open looks they recieved with Yao in the middle??

I think Yao is probably happy and so is Rudy that they won. I think there were a few instinces in which Yao picked Cuttino and rolled to the basket and was not seen in which I was furious, but they were TRYING VERY HARD to get it to Yao, and took open shots instead of forcing the action. That is team basketball.

 

I got to this thread a little late. But, this is pathetic. Gimme a freakin break. All of you Rockets fans that are only here because of Yao, stop posting. This is a Rockets board. Im tired of all the Francis/Mobes hating. We freakin won a HUGE game last night and everyone b****es about our guards. Stupid. Just stupid.

 

While I don't think Francis and Mobley are the greatest entry passers in the world, let's be real here. Teams have started doubling Yao before he even has the ball. That would've been illegal defense in Hakeem's day (unless you played for Seattle). Robert Horry and Kenny Smith were great passers into the post because :

1) They would isolate themselves and Hakeem on one side of the court and play a 2 man game.

2) If Smith's or Horry's defender fell back to double Hakeem, Smith or Horry would pop a 3 or a 22 footer and burn them.

3) If Smith's or Horry's defender chose to not double Hakeem, they would pass to Hakeem who would then proceed to go Hall of Fame on somebody.

The entry pass now is a bit more difficult because :

1) Zones and double-teams before the player has the ball can be legal now.

2) We don't have a consistent outside shooter. Look at what Rice's, Francis', and Mobley's outside shooting do to teams that decide to collapse on Yao. They destroy people when they're hitting from the outside.

 

Did you really mean Yao was a non factor in this game. Agreed whole heartedly our guards have a good game. But saying Yao is non existant in this game loses your credibility. I dont even want to go into detail why our guards have a much easier shooting tonight.

 

Saying the guard tandem works well after witnessing a great shooting night is like driving while looking at the rear-view mirror ONLY. In hindsight, everythings looks great if something good comes out of it. IMHO, the answer lies in how well the guards, esp. Francis, orchestrates the offense depending upon the situation. On some nites, it will pay for the guards to do their thing and take advantage of the double teaming of Yao. On other nites, Yao may have a mono-e-mono adv over his opposing center. In either situation, one feeds off the other and vice versa. Playing with two prolific SGs is a plus not a minus and Yao's play will benefit, not lose, from this situation.

YAO, MOBLEY AND SF are a synergistic trio. The league is way too adaptable to simply let Yao blossom and to NOT clamp down on him with specialized defenses that are designed to neutralize him. As a team we can neutralize ANY defense when we have as many weapons as we do. Therefore, there should be no debate as to whether having a guard tandem AND a center is good or not. Quite frankly, it is an UNAMBIGUOUS GOOD.

Personally, I DON'T want to see Yao turn into the "known" weapon in any go-to situation. This effectively compromises his effectiveness for loss of the "surprise element." In crunch time, we have multiple options, and that makes the decision to just devote extra defensive resources on Yao all the more difficult. If Yao ever ends up carrying so much of the load as to become a glaring achilles heal, we've created yet another imbalance on this team that is worse than what we see on occasion now. RudyT is doing an excellent job keeping players involved and productive.

Anytime, a team relies too much on a specific player, the risks to the team's fortunes increases that much more, regardless of their W/L record. One blessing we've had this year is also a relaitvely healthy roster that's "free from injury." Can you imagine how well the Spurs would play w/o Duncan? Or Dallas w/o Nowtiski? While one game does not a trend make, even in the absence of SF (with Memphis), Cat, or Yao, I honestly think we still have a .500 team here. With the extra guy, we're pushing .550 to .600... and that's just right NOW in our first year as a trio.

Good times are a comin'



theSAGE

 

oh...my god.

u guys r so silly.
YAO and others are pretty comfortable together.
why we are arguing this topic here?

and i don't like the guy who said...this is rockets borad, u r all yao fans..blah,blah. also a silly man.
yao is A rox player, isn't he?

SILLY SILLY SILLY

 

Rudy Tomjanovich: They were all over Yao and this was a great learning experience for him. This was the most concentrated defense I have seen on one guy this season defending Yao.

Steve Francis: They were double- and triple-teaming the big fella. As much as we wanted to get him the ball, I think he understood because they had so many arms and legs on him that we didn't really want to force it.

Yao Ming: They guarded me very tight, but we won.