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Anyone else noticed Eddie?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by pugsly8422, Feb 19, 2003.

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  1. Baqui99

    Baqui99 Member

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    To say he needs to "improve his game" is a huge understatement. He's the most fundamentally unsound of anyone on the roster right now, Collier included. He's damn athletic, but he couldn't make a jumper to save his life.
     
  2. pugsly8422

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    LMAO! I think that's the perfect description for EG so far! Now if we could just turn that into a nickname for him somehow....
     
  3. TheFreak

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    I think a lot of posters on this site are giving him a run for his money.
     
  4. B-Bob

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    Thank you. Deuce. See. people? That. is. what. I am.
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  5. pugsly8422

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    It seems like he's scared to do anything because he is afraid to upset his teammates or the coaches. So since he's done this other stuff before, and they didn't get upset at him, he's just going to play it safe and do what he knows he can do. Now if he could just do it consistently.

    Pugs
     
  6. Baqui99

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    Does anyone remember that Coors commercial with that Russian guy "Krebs"? Anyways, Krebs gets dogged in practice because he's a big oaf and can't shoot. His coach tells him "you're here to rebound, Krebs!" At the end, however, Krebs nails a three at the buzzer, his teammates are like NOOO!, but he makes it and then they take him out for beers. He asks for a Coors. Maybe EG is our version of Krebs.
     
  7. Possum

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    STUPID STUPID STUPID!:rolleyes: The guy isn't even old enough to buy beer. Its called growing pains. Everyone goes through them except a very blessed few. If you have to, complain about someone that has been in the NBA for 5 years now and still makes the same mistakes over and over.;)
     
  8. Toast

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    That's kinda my thought. If he thought he was so ready to play in the pros after 1 year in college, why should we think otherwise?

    I like Eddie, but come on man, give it all you got!
     
  9. pugsly8422

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    nah, EG (who was my fav. player last year for a month or so) is more like...umm....i dunno any cheap beers worse than coors so I'll let you decide.
     
  10. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Just for the record. I am not an Eddie appologist or anything! I like Eddie and I think he has some promise but he has to start showing something SOON or else it is time to move on. That's why I still give him a pass now since he is so young and this is only his second year in the league. But he DOES need to start to show improvements in his game. I think defensively he has, but offensively it is quite obvious he has a ways to go.

    As far as I am concerned Eddie right now looks like a Robery Horry clone. Horry didn't have any post moves either. All Horry could do offensively was put back rebounds and shoot spot up 3 pointers. That is pretty much Eddie's game as well.

    As high a pick as Eddie was and as much potential as he exhibits he needs to turn out to be more than a Robery Horry clone. His game needs to resemble more of Rasheed Wallace or Jermain O'neal. The sooner we get that combined with Yao's game the sooner we can polish our championship trophies! :D

    Chris
     
  11. Baqui99

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    I don't think the legal drinking age has stopped anyone that wants to drink beer from doing so.
     
  12. DrLudicrous

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    There are a lot of times Eddie gets position in the post and calls for the ball but doesn't get it. When Mo started we always went to him early in the game, when Kenny started the first two or three plays were always for him, I think if they did that same thing for Eddie early in the game it could help is confidence throughout the game and having more touches during a game is the best way to feel more comfortable. I think Eddie should be getting at least four post up plays a game, if he misses them it's no worse than him missing three's and jump shots, it could be better since he could at least fight for the rebound.

    There are a lot of times where he needs to be more aggressive and he does make mistakes, a couple of them from last night have already been pointed out (not chasing after Fisher after the bad pass, stopping in the lane instead of driving to the basket). When he does his pump fake and gets around his defender he could make it to the basket with only two or three dribbles and have a chance at a layup or dunk, the coaching staff needs to be drilling this into his head every day and spend some time during practice just with him driving to the hoop to get him used to it and comfortable doing it. Also, having Cato giving him some shots in practice will get him used to contact and remove some fear of driving (or maybe add more).

    But he is far from a bust.
     
  13. Possum

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    My point is that he is so young. He is 2 years younger than Ming for crying out loud. He's been in the NBA for a year and a half.
     
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    Beer creates rust in his inner gears anyway.
     
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    There is something to be said for that. I too think that Eddie needs to have some plays called for him during the game where he is posting up. I think with Eddie a lot of his play revolves around confidence and getting him off early in the game with some post up plays would do wonders for him. I would rather go down with him working on his post up game with the thought of improvement then him just jacking up shots behind the three point line on busted plays.

    BTW, I never saw Griffin in college. Those of you that have.... What type of offensive game did he display in college? Was he a jumpshooter, post up player? Has his offensive game changed any from college? If it has, why?

    Chris
     
  16. pugsly8422

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    I wish we could trade EG for that High Schooler Tyson Chandler. That's the type of game Eddie needs to have, and we really need.

    I'm still curious...has anyone else seen how scared Eddie gets when he gets the ball in any situation other than taking a shot or rebounding?

    Pugs
     
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    I haven't seen him in college either, but I've read that he had good post moves. Mostly, a post player, and was compared with Tim Duncan.

    This is why I think Eddie still needs the benefit of ONE more summer to become effectiev, and ONE more season to become consistent. You must be thinking "TWO MORE YEARS?"...Well, guess what, in 2 years, he'll be as old as Yao Ming is at this very moment.

    Despite all this, I'm prepared to trade Eddie for the right package. Despite the potential to become such a great player, I don't feel he's the right type of PF to play alongside Yao Ming. Someone like Elton Brand is more suited. Someone who plays tough man-to-man D, POWERFUL, and a strong rebounder.
     
  18. crash5179

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    Expect a good game from Eddie tonight since his stats are a lot better on 0 days rest. He has played 9 games this year with 0 days rest and his stats are pretty good.

    23.9 minutes a game
    .452 F/G percentage
    2.33 blocks per game
    7.9 rebounds per game
    1.6 assists per game
    8.3 points per game

    Seriously, I was one of the ones criticizing Eddie early in the season but I have since lowered my expectations for him. I anticipated him getting 14 pts, 10 rebounds and 3 blocks a game with a decent shooting percentage this year but it became very obvious early on that he would not put up those numbers. I do think that Eddie will turn into a double / double man that can block a lot of shots. I no longer think that he could turn into an MVP candidate at some point in his career. I do think he can still turn into an Otis Thorpe type of power forward that blocks a little better but might not have the high shooting percentage. Obviously when Eddie gets stronger his shooting percentage will go up considerably just based on the fact that he will be able to take a lot of shots a lot closer to the goal.

    If Eddie turns into an Otis Thorpe type of player that can play along Yao Ming and get 14 to 18 points a game in a couple of years and pull down around 10 boards a game while playing good defense and blocking shots I would be more than happy with him. If I were going to trade Eddie it certainly would not be for a Brian Grant type of player. Elton Brand is about the only player that I would trade Eddie for that might be on the trading block. Anything less and I am still willing to let a 20 year old kid have another year or so to mature.
     
  19. DearRock

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    The trade is looking sicker and sicker each day. The team is lucky that they got Ming.
     

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