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ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Bobcats 1/21/2013

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Jan 20, 2013.

  1. charles_zed

    charles_zed Member

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    McHale treats Douglas and Lin like trash.

    Douglas was playing pretty good until he got completely pulled from the line-up, and then when Beverley went full r****d in the Wolves game and had 5 fouls Douglas went on a tear and yet Beverley replaced him in crunch time and missed another crucial defensive rotation leading to a wide open three.

    Beverley is a good player, a really good player with huge promise, and of course as the season progresses he'll learn more but playing him in crunch-time?
     
  2. TTNN

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    oh, what I'm saying is that he looks less effective when he was not allowed to do traditional PG stuff. Obviously he would contribute more if he is allowed to facilitate offense, but I thought taking out that part of his game, he should still have some of his SG capability left..... not just contribute in defense side......

    I thought he is more of a combo guard than traditional PG, but he does not look like one now.....

    On the other hand, the way coaches limiting his game is beyond imagination. In Dallas's game, Lin is almost win us a game, and he is working perfectly in sync with Harden, running 1,2 p&r nicely, and all a sudden, after a timeout, they changed all the style back to Harden's ISO, don't know how Harden feels there either.....
     
  3. TTNN

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    one thing I don't understand is that Beverley played in Euro league, (not even first tier league), and same as DMo, how come Beverley crack into the rotation that fast with TD playing good, and DMo still can not play?
     
  4. charles_zed

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    Beverley was the MVP of the league the focal point of the team's offense and was in a contract with them.

    When Morey's goon squad approached him it's plausible his agent negotiated that Beverley would be allowed some more generous provisions if he was to sign with the Rockets. Delfino signed his super team friendly deal with the promise of consistent rotational minutes as well I believe.

    Even if that's not the case, Beverley isn't an ordinary rookie, we were losing games, and Douglas apparently isn't what McHale wants out of his third rotational guard.

    Of course I think it's silly that the coaching staff haven't been able to see that a lot of our players are just playing out of position, and that Douglas is perfectly competent just as the off-guard.
     
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    as bad as weve been this last stretch...the blazers have been just as bad! looks like their coach is running their starters into the ground too...its not just McHale!
     
  6. IzakDavid13

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    ...the question should be how bad is D-Mo when Cole Aldrich gets bigger minutes in the rotation?
     
  7. BraveFox

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    yeah home L to cavs and washington.... and they have a perfect starting 5 ...so dont dream that one day if we get perfect 4 that well be good... were already good as it gets...
     
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    one reason! Mcfail sucks:( and he need to get out of rockets!
     
  9. CheukLau

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    Beverley has been great. DMo is a disappointment. I was expecting him to play better, but well...
     
  10. CheukLau

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    To be honest, even Aldrich plays better than DMo. DMo definitely has the skill and tools, but every times when he is on floor, all he does is wondering around with no purposes.
     
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    Courtney Fortson, ring a bell. Maybe it is Morey's command to play Beverly, but I don't think this is a constructive way to build progress. Maybe McHale saw Kapernick in Beverly- sarcasm. I still don't understand why Harden is pushing the ball up the court as SG, we must be pushing him to be All-Star.
     
  12. w00t

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    When did he played at all? :rolleyes:
     
  13. w00t

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    Cool story DOH :grin:
     
  14. mothman

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    FYI, PB is Eurocup MVP (2011-2012), NOT Euroleague MVP. Eurocup Basketball is Europe's 2nd-tier level continental-wide professional basketball competition. The Eurocup is the level that is one tier below the Euroleague level.

    Zoran Planinić is the Eurocup Finals MVP (2011-2012).
    Andrei Kirilenko is the Euroleague MVP (2011-2012).
     
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    He treats harden like trash too. Running him like he never feels tired or this is ths playoff game. The coaches are just desperate now ... They are NBA professiknals. i expect them to know more about basketball than us funs. the only logical explanation i can find is that they are trying to save their jobs. I hate to say this... But using harden like this will almost ensure injuries will follow harden in the next few years...
     
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    Harden felt like **** too. Instead sharing the attention to Lin, now he got all the attention. Double, tipple, you name. I don't know how you feel about getting foul, I wouldn't like it. We are not talking about hand check, it could be hard foul. We are talking about professional weighting 200 to 250 lbs on average. It is like taking a beating by 3 or 4 people every time you go to the rim.

    Lin problem is that his shooting is way off, and because of it his confident is down. Now depress by the coaching staff. I haven't see a smile from him or any other Rockets. **** must be painful to play with this coach. Another reason is he is not allow to play in the traditional PnR PG, when was the last time you see a PnR. On the Dallas game, if Asik screens Lin's defender, Lin might able to pull off the shoot. But instead, Asik just run pass Lin's defender. Instead of a 3, Lin had no choice by drive and he got double.
     
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    From post-game interviews...

    http://www.nba.com/rockets/news/slump-busters

    Stuff that struck me in particular...

    My main question from these comments is Why did it take McHale 3 quarters before he decided to start trapping Kemba Walker and Ramon Sessions off screens and picks?

    It's a bit concerning that McHale took so long to adjust. We could still have easily lost this game.
     
  18. mothman

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    Torocan, that's what I posted earlier. But I didn't think it was the coaching staff that made the adjustments, it was down to Lin to shout out to Asik in that one play to have Asik help out at the pnr defense (the Bobcats were still running that Biyombo/Walker pnr effectively at the beginning of 3rd Q). It shouldn't have come to that in the first place.

    Can somebody post the video link of that play at around 9.40 (or somewhere under 10min) remaining in the 3rd Q? When I saw that I was thinking what were the coaches thinking? Why do they have Asik camped out in the paint when his guy is involved in the pnr? From then on, you can see they started trapping the pnr offense & Walker was not able to score for a long stretch during the 3rd Q, and only way he scored (aprt from the fast-break layup) was via shooting the threes.
     
  19. liunatic

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    Yea I thought that was weird too. Lin was pretty much left out to dry...same with Harden or whoever biyombo was setting a pick for. Pretty much let Kemba (and at a smaller extent, Ramon) get to his mid-range game which is ridiculously good.
     
  20. Steal&Deal

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    So what you're saying is that Lin is the one who called for the adjustment to trap Walker? In his post game interview Walker said that trapping him and Sessions made the difference in the game. McHale outcoached by his player and then removes player from game!
     

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