Rockets among teams that Josh Smith finds appealling

Both Gortat and Smith are elite shot blojkers and will help on the pick and roll. Gortat is tougher and more hard nosed than Asik, who isn't a "go-get-it" rebounder. I agree with Smith, he is not a great offensive player, but he's better than Patterson and Morris on both ends. Also, if he doesn't have the ball in his hands as much, he will have more opprotunities to be in the paint, where he belongs.

 

Asik is a better rebounder and blocker than Gortat. Gortat is not better offensively. Give Omer more time, he will get it too soon. No need to break up this Greg smith/omer combo.

Almost every other starting pf in the league is better than ppat/morris, but that doesn't mean we should get them. Why get Smith, most people will be screaming for him to get traded after his first 5 games

 

sorry meant Gortat is better offensively

 

Gortat is actually averaging a whole block more than Asik, and his rebounding isn't bad enough to where it will be much of a dropoff from Asik. At least Gortat can play defense and offense. Asik can only play defense.

As for Smith, I agree that his play is frustrating at times, but his shot blocking, rebounding, and crazy dunks would be perfect for this team. Also, in his run as a Hawk, he has yet to have a point guard who is a really good passer. As much as Lin has struggled with shooting, he has been a very good passer. He would be a great fit with Smith.

 

Gortat is a much better offensive player then omer, he has good hands, a soft touch at the basket, post moves and is quick and agile for 6'11. Asik has none of those quality's.

Gortat is miles ahead offensively, which is ok, omer's focus is D and RB. it would be much easier for him to rebound as well, with gortat helping on D.

 

his stats are skewed, who else on the the suns team plays defense. Gortat can snag all the rebounds and blocks he wants.
Gortat is not a great defender, Asik is. Asik actually fits our team because he doesnt need plays ran for him, Gortat will expect and demand plays for himself.
Lin is not known for throwing alley oops, so he wont be doing Smith any favors. Cousins on the other hand is younger, cheaper and a better fit if you want to be a championship contender

 

I have a question. Who on our team really plays defense? Really how many? You can list your individual players but note that we are last in the league, the Suns are ahead of us. That makes your "skewed" theory irrelevant.

And I want Cousins too, but at least I, and many others here, live in reality. Gortat is more affordable and will give us a temporary fix that is effective on both sides. Cousins will probably ask for close to a Max. Be realistic. If you think Cousins is easier to get, you're an idiot. By the way, no, Asik doesn't "demand" the ball, but neither does Gortat. He wants more touches for himself in Phoenix. He would get a fair amount of touches if he was running with the pick-and-roll with Lin and Harden. And you know Lin isn't an alley-oop passer? He hasn't had the opprotunity to do it often beacuse we don't a lot of guys who can jump like that. Both Smith and Gortat can throw it down. Asik can, but his finishing is terrible.

 

oh, everyone on our starting lineup (when morris plays pf) plays defense.
We are a running team and score a lot of points which results in the other team running back and scoring too, but in a half court set, we play defense individually, not just team defense (which is a coaching issue).
Just because Gortat is available, doesn't mean we should get him. He is not a pf, get that. He is a C and the C we currently have is a better all around player than he is.
By the way, Cousins is a max player.
We have players who can go grab alley oops. watch Lin running a 2 on 1 fastbreak, he rarely passes if he's handling the ball, sometimes he fakes a pass, but he is always trying to score on 2 on 1 fastbreaks, which is the perfect time for alley oops

 

In this scenario, Gortat would play Center, Josh Smith would play Power Forward. Cousins is not a max player. Look at every max contract player in the league. Harden is the only one who wasn't a bonafide superstar before the deal. Cousins hasn't done **** to prove he's a
Max player. You're looking at stats only. Cousins stats show a bonafide star. But stats aren't everything. He doesn't dominate, he is a headcase, and still unproven. I would love to have and develop Cousins, but to say he's a max player is just plain silly.

 

Josh Smith would be a huge mistake. I can't believe many of you want him here.

 

We dont have to worry about Asik. He is a good player and has the potential to be greater. Only thing he needs to do is constantly remind himself that a pass can be thrown his way at any moment and to have confidence going up strong.

He's still stuck on how Chicago used him and gets surprised by getting so many passes lol.


Also...He really is a decent 10'-12' shooter. Coaching staff really needs to do some PnR w/ Harden/Lin, so Asik can take that short jumper or the Guards can shoot the mid range jumpers or drive in layup/dish back to Asik or others for put back.

TLTR: PnR please.................

 

Asik is a better C than Gortat.
Smith is a pf masquerading as a sf because of his terrible shot selection and shooting %. Horford should be playing pf for Atlanta.
Cousins, if we trade for him, will prove he is a max player after this season.
Harden showed glimpses, but he wasnt a bonafide star before we got him. He disappeared during the playoffs. Bonafide stars do not do that.
Hakeem was a headcase before islam found him, kobe is a headcase, Jordan was a headcase, Wallace was a headcase.....
The great ones are usually headcases because they feel they know more than their coaches, most times they are right, sometimes they are wrong.
Cousins needs the right environment to flourish.
If McHale remains the head coach, then dont trade for Cousins.
But I would rather we stood pat and made no moves, than get Gortat or Smith

 

And how do you suppose Cousins will come to Houston? We probably don't have a chance.

 

no one is untradeable, you might have to pay a lot to get him, but he's worth it. Everyone not named Asik/Harden is available. Also, make sure we include at least 2 pfs in that trade

 

The way I see it J.Smith is a peace that helps us now and later can be a peace that helps us land another all star maybe Love down the road.

 

why get a player who you already know you want to trade. thats making a trade in bad faith. These players are humans, they have families who move with them to any city they are traded to, they are not stocks and bonds. You have seen how stars view the rockets front office in the league, all because of how Morey treats his players. Also, we overpaid for Harden, the only other option they had was from Washington for Beal and fillers. But i think he had to overpay cos he had a rep for not getting stars, only average players.

Smith is not a high iq player. He is going to jack up so many contested 3's and long 2's, so many people will be making a "Trade Smith for peanuts" threads soon. How is Love working out for Minnesota with all his injuries.

 

Lou Williams is out for the season, looks like hawks are looking for a guard...
maybe we could Douglas fillers for Smith?

 

Damn you are kinda r****ded. So a guy averaging 26 ppg is overpaid? Kevin Love, Josh Smith, Demarcus Cousins not worth it? THEN WHO DO YOU GET? Smith is probably the best fit for this team. He's very athletic, a great defender, can spread the floor decently, can rebound well. So what he's low iq? every player has their damn fault. I bet you wouldn't want Dwight just because he can't hit freethrows.

 

Why do you guys want Jose Smith so much?! Just ridiculous!

He's too erratic on offense. He shoots jump shots out of his range. He freaking shoots threes. He's undisciplined. On a championship team, he's a third or fourth best player, like when Lamar Odom was on the 2009 and 2010 Lakers.

The Rockets have room for one more max contact and you want them to blow it on Josh Smith???? SMH.

Do you Josh Smith apologists want the Rockets to become the Atlanta Hawks west?

 

Because he's a fantastic defender, all star caliber player? You know, the kinda player the team needs.