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The Rockets don’t have power forwards. They have soft forwards.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by BEAT LA, Jan 18, 2013.

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  1. BEAT LA

    BEAT LA Member

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    They have no power in their game. With the exception of Jones, the Rockets have a bunch of softees at the PF spot. Patrick (can’t rebound) Patterson, Donny (I’m lucky to be seven feet tall) Montiejunas, and Marcus (I like to camp outside for a living) Morris. Not one of them bangs in the post, box out well, or score in the paint. They rarely dunk the ball if they do get manage to get inside.

    Do Morey’s statistics fail to account for the dirty work required by big men? It looks like he finally managed to get it right with Asik. Is it so much to ask for a PF with size that can run the floor, knock down the open jumper, rebound, provide post scoring, and help guard the paint? I don't think there are many true post scorers left in the NBA, but I don't want someone who excels at one thing and fails at other aspects of the game.
     
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    I'm not a Josh Smith fan, but we might as well get him at a low cost and see what happens. Sure would be better than right now.
     
  3. amaru

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    Morris is a 3....so I would take him out of this conversation. However you are right that our PFs are soft
     
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    Well, when you put it that way, yes it is, actually... That's the entire package of an effective power forward.
     
  5. Carl Herrera

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    Morey needs to only acquire 2nd round or undrafted PFs. Landry, Scola and Hayes worked out fine. The 1st rounders suck.
     
  6. w00t

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    Who cares about soft Motiejunas - he's the next Dirk with the post game :p
     
  7. ivanyy2000

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    They don't even box out. Got pushed out of position for rebound too damn often.

    The result is though Asik gets a lot rebounds but he gets tired quickly because he has to bang inside with PF and C from opponents' team .
     
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    Tjones played with power and aggressiveness limited minutes the guy was dunking on people and blocking shots yet he keeps getting sent to the dleague
     
  9. roxxy

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    Those were his good games. There were minutes where he looked a bit lost out there. It seems like D-mo is ahead of the pack in terms of all the rookies.
     
  10. BEAT LA

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    Can he really be much worse than Patterson and Morris? He plays with more intensity than both of them combined. I want to see how he does in one quarter.

    I guess the only way he can get minutes is if he plays PF. I thought Patterson was the answer, but his game's changed so much since his rookie year. Maybe his injury is bigger than I though, because he's less aggressive. It looks like he's lost a step and some athleticism.

    Al Jefferson does everything except run the floor and he's not a bad shot blocker. Josh Smith does everything, but he's undersized. Maybe this 2014 draft class everyone's mentioning might be the answer.
     
  11. torocan

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    I'm hoping they're injured, because I can't find any other excuses that make sense for their drop off in play.

    Patterson is averaging 19 mpg, Morris 18 mpg over the last 5 games. It's not like they're getting a ridiculous amount of burn to explain their horrible shooting (both averaging 31.3% FG -- mind boggling considering they're supposed to ALSO be athletic cutters).

    And yes, the lack of boxing out is pretty bad. That 3 consecutive Offensive Rebound play was really awful. 2 rebounds COMBINED between Patterson and Morris was really awful...
     
  12. dobro1229

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    I posted this in the Marcus Morris thread, but feel it bears repeating here-

    To be fair, much of their non-existence has to do with the offensive system that shoves them in the corner to do nothing but hit 3's. Cant say that D-Mo or Jones would be doing any better given the assignment on offense.

    Not that I blame the coaches or front office for installing a system that makes the PF spot irrelevant on offense. I mean you do have James Harden and Jeremy Lin in the back court. However, they could install some new sets to get the bigs better looks on offense from the mid range.

    The Rockets do have some questions to answer with the PF position. Do you go out and spring for a Channing Frye or Ryan Anderson type to fit the roll, or actually just go best player available that fits the youth movement, and install different sets into their offense that aren't suited for open driving lanes?

    The one reason why I am sort of hoping D-Mo gets some time(despite what he gives up on defense) is because his ability to score down low might force the coaches to add some versatility to the offense.
     
  13. Da_Spark

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    The worst thing that could happen to our team and Daryl Morey is if he panic's and gets a player who would fill the void and settle quick fix Power forward that won't really make us a contender and would take away our cap flexibility going forward.

    We have to be patient. Right now i'd probably throw in a small hybrid lineup with Parsons at the 4 or go with Terrence Jones. One thing i'm worried about right now is the way Harden and Lin are getting worn out by not having a big that they can run the pick and roll with and this is the main reason why both of em are struggling right now.
     
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    Trade Ppat for a 2013 and 14 2nd rder!
     
  15. Carl Herrera

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    When you are poor and desperate, you go shopping at K-Mart:

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  16. Kwame

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    It's really unfortunate, because instead of drafting a soft forward, the Rockets could have drafted this guy:

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  17. dobro1229

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    Boy Sullinger sure sounds nice right now. Man, its just amazing that guys like this continue to slip in the draft. How can a guy that dominated every single NCAA team in the paint for two straight years not be a lottery pick???.... because he look's fat??... Come on guys.
     
  18. roxxy

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    I also think people need to be more patient with Ppatt & Morris. Like Morris has less experience than even Lin. I honestly felt that Morris should have stayed in the starting unit. Yes he had his off days but every player does. Also PPatt seemed a lot more aggressive rebounding coming with the second unit. The Rockets are trying to see what they have in Ppatt & Morris this season so they should be getting maximum playing time to put up or shut up & also to up there trade value. Everybody knew that this would be a development year for Houston. It seemed like once we added Harden & we had our hot stretch everybody got a little high on it. This is a very tough stretch for Houston I think things will get easier at the end of the month. Patience is key.
     
  19. rayrocket

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    this happens to be true...
     
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    Why do we have so many PFs who aren't powerful ?
    The problem actually lies on our crazy stretch 4 offensive system. Even if we get a real PF, what happen next ? The PF is going to play at the perimeter to stretch the floor, and he is not allowed to shoot midrange shots. Even Pau can't do that in LAL.
     

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