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Petition on Rudy!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rockets-R-Us, Feb 15, 2003.

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  1. pasox2

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    I'm all for it. Fire Rudy. I'd wanted to try the assistants thing, but he seems too stubborn and proud to take on any. The players aren't the only ones who refuse to listen. Fire Rudy.

    Yes, we also need to trade Cuttino, dump Moochie, get a pf, balance contracts, etc. so the new coach has something to work with. Firing Rudy is the most important first step. The team will never go anywhere because of him. It may achieve something on talent in spite of him, but you'll never, ever be able to say "Rudy got us that one - the players were lost, but Rudy adjusted and outcoached them." That's not Rudy, and it never will be. Rudy is leading the team into a swamp of doubt and suspicion, breeding a disease that is corrupting and killing the rockets, with his pigheaded, hormonal "leadership". Rudy is a cancer. Amputate.
     
  2. getsmartnow

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    I'm split 50-50 on this issue. I can see why people want to fire Rudy, and I see why people want to keep him.

    But, before you make a decision, ask yourself this:

    "What were my expectations of the team before the season started?
     
  3. Space Ghost

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    Success rises and falls on leadership ... and the leader of this team is Rudy. No matter what EXCUSES you give the players, it is the coaches obligated job to fix the problem.

    Steve, Ming, Mobley, Taylor and Griffen have PROVEN they can play. Rudy has proven (past tense) that he can win.

    If Steves game started to decline where he wasn't worth the money to be paid for, then it would be time to trade him or release him. Even Cato is Rudy's responsiblity for motivation.

    Sorry and sadly to say, its time for Rudy to move on.
     
  4. Cohen

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    Don't try to hijack the thread with logic. ;)
     
  5. pooh222

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    Of course I'm for it. Rudy lost control of this team a while ago. He's basically inept as a coach of this team. The team might as well not even have a coach because the team is running itself.
     
  6. almostReady

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    Rudy must go! He had two rings already. He doesn't give a damn to anything anymore. You want him to front against these young players? Keep dreaming.

    But if Steve the-selfish-ballhogging-loser Franchise and his buddy Mobley want Rudy to stay, who want to come here to experience what Nellie had in NY? Sad.
     
  7. MR. MEOWGI

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    Internet petitions are stupid.
     
  8. Drewdog

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    This is where I stopped reading. Since when does Rudy T play point guard. :rolleyes:
     
  9. DreamWeaver

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    Amidst all the incoherent posts by the likes of T-man, it is refreshing to read a post that presents logics rather than bias.

    I have always felt that every team's performance is a reflection of its coach. Our season-long inconsistency and a lack of visible progress over the past four years are reasons enough to send Rudy packing.

    It's nothing personal. It's business.
     
  10. DreamWeaver

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    Maybe I am missing something here. Isn't Rudy the coach and supreme commander of this Rox team? If certain PG isn't "following his game plan" and Rudy chooses to do nothing, whose fault is it?
     
  11. reptilexcq

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    I hate to say it but Rudy is not good enough for this team and for its development. Rudy is too soft to me as a headcoach. He's a nice guy and people don't want to fire him because of that but if the Rockets want to improve and be a better Playoffs caliber team, Rudy has got to go. If not, the Rockets need to make a major trade to get rid of some of these so so players like Posey (who can't shoot) and Griffin (can't shoot), and Mobley (ballhog, low IQ on court).
     
  12. Codman

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    This thread is truly a waste of time. It's okay to be a Rocket fan and be dissatisfied with Rudy T, but it's another thing to attempt to create a petition to get rid of him. We are all fans of the Rockets. We have no say in the way they run their organization, other than what goes on at halftime. Give me a freakin' break!!!

    Personally, I don't think Rudy is the problem. We have a fairly young team with a rookie center. Patience is everything. This team is going to be special.


    Cod
     
  13. jo mama

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    dont know about yall, but my expectations were to make the freaking playoffs, and maybe even sneak in w/ homecourt. was i too much of an optimist? before the season started we were looking pretty damn good and the organization was talking much smack about how it was their year finally.
    firing rudy right now will not fix anything though. WHEN we miss out on the playoffs again i think it will be time, but he should finish out the season. only REALLY crappy teams fire their coaches mid-season. were not as bad as the cavs right? oh wait, they beat us.
    i really have no expectations anymore. yall should loose any you might have as well...youll sleep much better at night!
     
  14. jo mama

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    and i can appreciate your efforts to get a man fired, but with all due respect, how seriously do you expect to be taken w/ this?

    it read out like a u.n. war resolution or something. "article 6 section 7, whereas it is recognized that rudy t has a horses ass for a brain. article 6 section 8, whereas rudy t fails to establish a post presence due to the large horses ass he has in his head."

    "we the people find the defendant, rudolph tomjanovich to be an incompetent coach, and demand you, les alexander to fire him right now."

    les, upon reading says "well damn, these clutch city guys are right. im gonna do just what they say and fire him right now. john lucas is available."
     
  15. Jerry36

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    I would also like to add something for all the Rudy lovers. Take at look at all the teams that are in playoff positioning. You will see that the only team that has gotten the better of the Rockets are the Mavericks. Which owns a 3-0 lead against the Rockets. This team has proven that it can beat the best teams in the league. Okay, now hold that thought. Now what we need is a coach that can get them to play at that level on a consistent basis. Enough with the excuses, this team is ready to go to the playoffs. And if Rudy can't lead them there, he should be replaced.
     
  16. Rockets-R-Us

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    That was hysterical! I'm LMAO!!!

    I understand the skepticism, and believe me, my expectations that this petition will have the desired effect are not any greater than my expectations the Rox will make the playoffs at this point.

    However, I do know, as I stated earlier that these things CAN take on a life of their own. For those of you who don't agree or think it's a waste of time, I respect your opinion. However, as you stated earlier, the Rox themselves were responsible for creating most of the expectations about the post season.

    I BELIEVE Rudy needs to go. If you don't, fine.

    Our petty little petition may wind up as nothing more than an exercise in futility, or an afterthought, but if there's a possibility that I and others can have an impact, even minimally, then it's worth it. And, if this winds up as nothing more than fodder for bbs jokes in the future, so be it.

    Peace! ;) ;) ;)
     
  17. speedball

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    who do you want to replace him RRU? i want to start a petition to get YOU as the head coach!
     
  18. RIET

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    I think what he means is drop it in down low or don't get the ball.

    Teams start fronting Yao, no one can make a post entry pass = Yao getting no touches. If this is the formula to stopping the Rockets from getting the ball to Yao, we're screwed.

    Rudy needs to create ways to get him the ball and run the offense through him (stated ad nauseum...still waiting).

    Ive said this before.

    A veteran team needs an overseer of talent. Someone who can blend egos.

    A young team needs a creative and gifted tactician. The players don't have experience to make adjustments themselves. They need a thinker, an out-of-the-box coach who can get his guys to play beyond their abilities and find ways to maximize their talents and minimize their weaknesses.

    Rudy is the anti-tactician.
     
  19. Mr. Clutch

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    Ming is on the wrong team? Well then trade the whole rest of the team! This team should be built around Ming, anyone who has the smallest amount of NBA knowledge can see that.

    I agree with you about Francis, it was WRONG to build the team around him as though he were Hakeem Olajuwon or Majic Johnson. What a joke! He's a nice player, but he's by no means a superstar. He needs to be thought of as a talented #2 man. Look at other point guards- Gary Payton, John Stockton, Tim Hardaway. These guys at their peak were as good as Stevie but they weren't the #1 option when they were leading their teams. Francis is good but he's not Jordan.
     
  20. Rockets-R-Us

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    Very well said. I totally agree with you!!!!!!!!!

    BTW sportsfans, in case you were wondering, we're now up to about 15 responses. If we get to 50, it's going out via email to all local sports media.

    I know, I know, who give a sh*t about 50 losers on a local BBS...
    But I can tell you that all politicians know that for every letter they receive on a given issue, it equals about 100 voters with the same opinion!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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