1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Can Parsons be given a raise next season?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Dei, Dec 21, 2012.

  1. T-Slack

    T-Slack Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2009
    Messages:
    2,893
    Likes Received:
    81
    I know the contract he signed is is good for the team but from looking from his view, I don't understand how from Chase Budinger to Parsons why in earth would you sign a non guarantee 4 year contract when being a 2nd round pick you can sign a 1 or 2 year deal and get a bigger contract before the 1st rounders. The way he is playing this year, he would of gotten at least the same posin pill contract as Fields.
     
  2. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2005
    Messages:
    21,310
    Likes Received:
    11,755
    how much do other sophomores who are still on their rookie contract make?
     
  3. meh

    meh Member

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2002
    Messages:
    16,216
    Likes Received:
    3,426
    Occum's razor. The simplest answer is generally the correct one.

    Parsons make more per year than every single 2nd round pick before him.
     
  4. meh

    meh Member

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2002
    Messages:
    16,216
    Likes Received:
    3,426
    The Rockets have MUCH, MUCH higher bargaining potential next year on an extension with a option rather than RFA. If the Rockets want to retain Parsons long term for as cheap as possible, a 4th year TO is so much better in negotations it's not even funny.
     
  5. Lihao

    Lihao Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2012
    Messages:
    1,023
    Likes Received:
    28
    lmfao :grin:
     
  6. roslolian

    roslolian Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    30,146
    Likes Received:
    20,339
    WTF? First of all the Rockets already did him a major solid by:

    1) Drafting him (high chance Parsons would be undrafted)
    2) Giving him money comparable to a low first rounder. That's money and an option he didn't have to get, if you don't remember Landry was signed to just a 1-2 year deal when he was signed as a 2nd rounder.

    Secondly, look at his salary. Chandler's making almost a mill a year....at age 24. He's making more in 1 year than most people would make in their lifetime, so forgive me if I'm not crying tears for how "underpaid" Parsons is :rolleyes:

    Finally, the NBA isn't a charity it's a business. Just as players don't release teams from their contract when they become overpaid, teams shouldn't release players when they're underpaid. Not only that Parsons is on his rookie scale contract, why should the team release from that just because they want to throw money around? It would set a horrible precedent, and then you'd have Shabazz Muhammed demanding his team release him from his rookie scale and sign him to a max in his 2nd year.

    P.S. Carlos Boozer says hi. :rolleyes:
     
  7. LCII

    LCII Member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2006
    Messages:
    8,609
    Likes Received:
    395
    Taxes dood. Agent fees, increased expenses during your pro career due to the 'pro athlete lifestyle' (which you can minimize but impossible to completely avoid)

    That becomes $80,000 yr, pretty much your average middle class family salary in a big/medium city.

    Except since you receive a lump sum instead of gradual, you tend to spend it quicker since it feels like you'll be rich forever and knowing athletes arent the best money managers, a lot become broke/working class instead of living comfortably.
     
  8. Spiegel

    Spiegel Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2010
    Messages:
    5,403
    Likes Received:
    101
    Chandler is going anywhere. He is part of a core group which are all young and have a chance to establish a nice foundation for a very long , long while to come.
     
  9. jeffyisme

    jeffyisme Member

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2012
    Messages:
    43
    Likes Received:
    4
    Yes, but the Rockets hold his full bird-right then. Just offer him a good contract straight up, and it'll be fine. Morey has been considered good at accessing players' value, right? :p
     
  10. Dei

    Dei Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2006
    Messages:
    7,362
    Likes Received:
    335
    How much do other guys averaging his numbers and are past their rookie contracts make?
     
  11. bleedrockets

    bleedrockets Rookie

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2012
    Messages:
    1,366
    Likes Received:
    46
    Royce White makes more than Parsons this year and next lolz:confused:...and i made a thread like this and got roasted as well so OP don't get down on yourself...I think it was named "Could Parsons take money from a max player next year" but I don't think that no one heard of extensions;)
     
  12. Dei

    Dei Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2006
    Messages:
    7,362
    Likes Received:
    335
    Like you say later on, the NBA isn't a charity. As if Chandler's the only one benefiting from the situation.

    Landry got paid earlier too. It was a good situation for him.

    The rest of the issues were tackled already. Read the rest of the thread.
     
  13. roslolian

    roslolian Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    30,146
    Likes Received:
    20,339
    Well first of all the contract is agreed upon by two parties, mostly what happens is Houston makes a offer and the player (with his agent) can either accept the deal, reject the deal or ask for some modifications. Obviously the contract was slanted towards the Rox however we don't know how the negotiations went. Perhaps one reason Parsons is making late first rounder money is the team offered more money straight up as incentive for the options.

    Nobody (possibly even DM) could have predicted Parsons would play as well as he has, otherwise he wouldn't have gone in the 2nd round. Since he doesn't know how well he would do, from a $$$ standpoint it's far better to get more guaranteed money now than gamble that he'd make a better payday in 2 years. It's not like Landry wanted just a 2 year rookie contract so he could make more in year 3 onwards, it's that the Rox thought he might be out of the league in 2 years so they only offered him that.
     
  14. roslolian

    roslolian Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    30,146
    Likes Received:
    20,339
    It wasn't a good situation for him though, you're judging Landry's contract by hindsight. If you're LBJ or Rose, then you want your rookie contract to expire quicker so you'll get paid more earlier.

    But say you're an unknown like Parsons or Landry, and DM offers you two contracts:

    2 year deal worth 600k each
    or
    4 year deal worth 800k each, with 2 years team option

    Are you really gonna be stupid enough to turn down 400k extra and gamble that'd you make more on year 3? Something like 90% of second rounders are out of the league once their contract expires, what if you become a bust and don't get signed? What if you get injured or buried at the end of the bench for two years? If your contract expired then the team could offer a really lowball contract and then you'd be stuck making 2-3M the next 5 year, instead of making it big on year 3. Look at what happened to Aaron Brooks, he couldn't wait to make big money once his rookie contract expires but bad luck and injury caused him to miss his payday and he actually got stuck playing first in the CBA and now for Sacramento at a really low salary.
     
  15. Dei

    Dei Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2006
    Messages:
    7,362
    Likes Received:
    335
    That there is a contract isn't a question. The idea is that Landry got paid to his output, right when he was about to hit his prime. The team has the ability to give Chandler the same opportunity by not picking up his option, regardless of whether or not Chandler contemplated he'd be outperforming his contract at such a capacity.

    The contract should be honored, sure; though, I may be the first to step into the lot that thinks players should be able to renegotiate such bargains, with consideration to their age. It feels like the right thing to do.
     
  16. JJ23

    JJ23 Rookie

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2012
    Messages:
    807
    Likes Received:
    13
    Dei, although I totally 1000% disagree with your opinions, I respect your enthusiasm.
     
  17. T-Slack

    T-Slack Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2009
    Messages:
    2,893
    Likes Received:
    81
    If Parsons had reject the deal then he would be playing overseas right now. Thats how Morey gets players to sign away 4 years on the cheap.
     
  18. Dei

    Dei Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2006
    Messages:
    7,362
    Likes Received:
    335
    What? Pardon me but, considering you registered here Nov 2012, I'm thinking you're a LOF who's making an opinion about me rather than the topic.

    What're you disagreeing about? I can't really say enthusiasm is the main reason I made this thread.
     
  19. JJ23

    JJ23 Rookie

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2012
    Messages:
    807
    Likes Received:
    13
    excellent logic there kid
     
  20. JJ23

    JJ23 Rookie

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2012
    Messages:
    807
    Likes Received:
    13
    I would also like to end world hunger for real. Give up already. Ain't gonna happen.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now