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Is Jeremy Lin best when he is primary scorer/ball handler?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by oelman44, Dec 10, 2012.

  1. jtr

    jtr Member

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    You never give up on the "coaches fault" line do you? Crap dude, young teams are historically bad. Use Google. Look it up. The only team under 25 with a winning record in recent history is the 2008-2009 Blazers. Other than that the young teams are generally in the 20-30 wins bucket.
     
  2. Mr. Space City

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  3. torocan

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    It's not catering. Almost every team in the NBA initiates play with the PG. It's what he did the first 2 games Before the coaches started "coaching" the team, then suddenly he stopped. And shockingly as soon as Harden was sidelined, he did it again today.

    The Spurs announcers had it right. Let him play his Position, IE as the PG instead of having him play spot up shooter.

    Harden is the SG, let Lin initiate and Harden will find the ball in his hands plenty of times.

    Take a look at the team score line... Lin shares the ball willingly, however if it doesn't start in his hands very often, or rarely comes back to him, then he's not being free to play his game. IE, an attacking PG.
     
  4. rocketlauch

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    No, it's on the coaches to maximize the talent they have
     
  5. JeffB

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    Coaches can't make a guy hit wide open shots or be decisive with the ball.
     
  6. trock

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    I think the main problem is defense, but yeah, if Asik can finish better, it would take a lot of pressure off the guards. If they can get Smith in there to take some lobs, that would also put pressure on the defense.
     
  7. Karolik

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    Yes, but he can't be when there's a better player on the floor


    /eof
     
  8. meh

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    The defense will be fine as soon as the Rocket stop playing D'Antoni ball and play more Gundyball. But they're forced to do it now because they suck in a half court offense. If they can play efficiently in the half court, then they wouldn't need to play this wild style where both teams are just running up and down the court.
     
  9. akuma

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    Tyson Chandler was the finishing big for Lin last year; Fields and Shumpert were also great slashers. the peak of Linsanity was without Melo and Amare. Also Amare was just a shell of himself (still is) last year with none of his trademark athlethicism.

    they don't really have those players in Houston. Asik and Patterson definitely aren't the answer for the Lin PnR, although Asik is one of the better centers in the league.
     
  10. Lucky Charm

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  11. Rover16

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    It's clear that Lin is a better player than harden. Harden doesn't deserve that max contract and rockets will live to regret it. #FreeLinsanity
     
  12. Solidz75

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    Bottom line, easy solution. Lin plays PG andf Harden plays SG, their natural positions. That's it. Now was that so hard?
     
  13. real_egal

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    Unfortunately, Lin is a nature PG. As much as he wants to, he couldn't play the power forward position, only because the team needs support there.

    Meanwhile, the Orlando Magic featuring Dwight Howard, didn't ask him to be the primary ball handler, simply because he's the best player.

    Best player gets paid best, doesn't get to play PG as a reward or recognition.

    Harden can handle the ball for sure, but he's our best scorer and player. To make him the main ball handler, aka PG, is adding extra work load to him, while not utilizing Lin's strength.

    I am all for bringing Lin off the bench, if coaching staff have to let the best player be the PG.
     
  14. Postcall

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    Truly great players these days adjust their games around what the team needs. lebron could probably score 50 a game if he wanted. Kobe as well. Even Melo is being talked about as an MVP guy this season because he changed the way he plays(defensively). I think Lin should continue to adjust to Harden but to say that Harden should not have to adjust at all is nonsense.
     
  15. AdrenaLINe

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    stop with the trolling.. like anyone is saying that...

    Harden is the best player on the team

    all most are asking is LIN plays like a PG and Harden plays like a SG...

    It will end up in both end up being more efficient...
     
  16. dobro1229

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    My personal thoughts on this are that this issue is getting overblown quite a bit. Harden and Lin are both unselfish enough players that they will find the open man if you can get to your spots. You know how I know this?.. Patrick Patterson has had multiple 20 point games this season.

    If Lin can consistently shoot the ball well(which I believe he will), it forces the defense to give more space to Harden on the drive, and the tighter the defense plays to Lin's shot, the better angles he will have to drive to the hoop where he is arguably at his best.

    Im fully confident that given time, these two guys can learn to play both on and off the ball together, and the unselfishness both players have makes me confident that this wont turn into a Melo/Amare relationship on the court.

    Both of them have to help each other out by molding themselves into terrific 3 point shooters. That goes to Harden as well, who can stand to hit the 3 better himself.

    The question people are going to ask is "who should have the ball in their hands with 10 seconds left on the clock?" My response to that would be whoever is having the better shooting night. Then the defense will have to play up on their shot, and they will have better angles to get to the hoop or pass off to an open shooter.
     
  17. JeffB

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    I actually hate to see Harden initiating the offense so much primarily because he is such an efficient and versatile scorer. I'd rather see Lin push the ball up and initiate a set more often even though Harden is too good in pick n roll to not have him handle the rock.
     
  18. AdrenaLINe

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    ^ one of the reasons... why I think Lin will be a free agent in 3 years...

    because he will suck it up as a Shooting Guard for the Rox...

    and one game Lin needs to file away... for future reference
     
  19. trock

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    A big +1. although, I would always have it in Harden's hands at the end of the game. This year anyway.
     
  20. akuma

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    i hope i never have to see Gundyball (Jeffy) again. that type of ball was one of the biggest wastes of two of the best offensive talents the Rockets have ever had. i will never forget only 4 guys scoring in a playoff game, with only 3 in double figures with Shane freaking Battier being the 3rd guy with 11 points.

    the Rockets should just play McHale ball with hard defense; the offense might never get fixed (using Lin and Harden properly/effectively) this season.
     

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