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The business impact of benching Lin?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Good Times, Dec 9, 2012.

  1. Good Times

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    You are correct, I'm not a Chinese nor Taiwanese. However I have spent months in a year in China and Taiwan (as well as Japan and Korea) for the past decade and can only speak from personal experience and what I can see and hear. And I can say that Lin created a bigger buzz from the fans I know overseas than Yao ever did. I watched Lin featured in the news each night while spending a week in Taiwan. IMO the Taiwanese fans embraced him as much if not more than most Americans. Also note that he had the second highest no. of jersey sales last year. I'm going to say that's a big impact and a significant amount of revenue generated. You can argue this but again that's from what I've seen and heard. I'd like to understand why you wouldn't think Lin couldn't be as significant (looking forward) and how would you come to measured this?
     
  2. Linsanity

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    hmmmm... was he wearing #17 the first time when he was with Rockets last year? If he was, then I am wrong.... please correct me
     
  3. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Jersey sales revenue goes directly to the NBA and not to the Rockets.
     
  4. flamingdts

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    Yao had the second biggest influence on the NBA right behind Jordan.

    Linsanity has already cooled off quite a bit, but Yao only became progressively more and more popular.
     
  5. real_egal

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    Fans could care less how much Les makes from the Chinese market. All they want to see are good basketball and wins.

    It's always arguable what kind of player Lin will become, in a year or two. It's also fair to argue whether Rockets overpaid Lin.

    That being said, the notion of bringing more wins by benching Lin, isn't proven. On the contrary, results showed otherwise. Overtime against Portland, and last night's game, were both typical example of "benching Lin for defensive purpose or win". No matter what we believe and we can still argue about it, but the results have been negative.

    Benching Lin didn't help defense (there are hundreds of stats and even play-by-play comparison posts already), nor brought wins.

    Jeremy Lin is not at the peak of Linsanity; otherwise, there wouldn't be any argument. Undoubtedly, he is struggling with his shots, and playing below his capability. Be it physical or mental, Lin has to deal with it, and the team has to deal with it. So far, benching him doesn't seem to help anyone.

    BTW, if we can get good value back and help the team, I am never against a a trade, with anyone for anyone.
     
  6. FearTheBeardJH

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    Our defense is better when Lin is on the bench(107.8 Pts per 100 Poss. ON court vs. 106.6 Pts per 100 Poss. OFF Court) and so is our offense(107.4 ON Court, 110.7 OFF Court).

    He is also by far the least efficient scorer on this team.
     
  7. DreamWeaver

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    I am shocked, spiegel. You do have a positive side. ;)

    It appears at the moment that McHale's system impairs Lin's game but it is entirely possible that Lin is just not fully recovered from his surgery. If Lin is anywhere near his Linsanity days, our backcourt would be awesome.
     
  8. real_egal

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    Then bring him from the bench, and start TD, to get a fair assessment, instead of this "better defense interpretation", after OM scored 5 points on Lin, but 32 on TD.

    So-called better offense was NOT because TD organized offense better, but rather James did everything alone. Harden and Lin weren't making each other better, except for the first two games of the season. But obviously, something happened, Lin's playing style has changed after that.

    Harden is our main scorer and best player. He is young and the season is young, but if the coaching team want to make him the main facilitator as well, the physical and mental burden would be too heavy. I don't think that's in the best interest of Harden or the team.

    If coaching staff truly believe that Lin is hindering Harden's offensive game and team flow, they should immediately let TD start, instead of this starting for a few minutes and staying on bench crap. It's not fair to TD either, since TD is perceived as a better defensive and offensive player.
     
  9. DreamWeaver

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    LOL, that's just Linsane.

    But if wearing 17 makes him a better player, I am all for it. Heck, if wearing #11 makes him a 7-footer, I'll personally fly to China and ask for Yao's permission to un-retire his jersey.
     
  10. real_egal

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    You can save the trip. I am pretty sure that Yao would do that in a heart-beat:)
     
  11. Z-Ro&Trae

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    Rockets are playing Lin pretty similar to how the Kings used to play Jason Williams in games.
     
  12. AdrenaLINe

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    please why dont you watch a few linsanity games from last year and tell us you are seeing him used the same way in this offense...

    Lin is playing more East to West than he is North to South..

    he is not attacking the basket that is plain to see...

    here is one game to start it off for you

    http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...F95C9FD4BF3BB8726E5CF95C9FD4BF3BB8726&first=0
     
  13. SacTown

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    I was working in Shanghai when Yao was playing for the Rockets. I became an instant celebrity when people found out I was from Houston. All they wanted to talk about were the Rockets and not so much Yao but they wanted to talk about Tmac and Kobe. They were very familiar with the NBA and with Yao/Houston, but they were obsessed with Tmac and Kobe. This was back in 2006/2007.
     
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    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/RzinQ9V-1DA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    They still do, LOL!
     
  16. Liberon

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    He's nursing an injury and has pain. Dude was still able to cut fast and hard off the ball for quick rebounds, steals, etc from across the half court back in NY prior to the initial injury. His body simply cannot handle the NBA, particularly his knees which is sad.
     
  17. Alex L.

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    I don't think it's his body cannot handle the NBA. It's more like his body could not adjust from playing no minutes to playing major minutes every game for 26 games over 7 weeks in a compact season.

    This off season Lin did a lot of conditioning training to prepare his body. If you watched his games from last season, he looked exhausted 5 minutes into the game. He looks a lot better this year.
     
  18. highlander3128

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    LOL. Nice try.

    IIRC the Rockets still kept losing when Lin were benched.
     
  19. RoxFanfrom93

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    it's funny how the same rockets fans who hate Martin think Lin is an all star...it's good to be anything but black
     
  20. Caris

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    Lin's business impact is very different from Yao or Yi.

    Disclaimer: I’m third-generation Chinese born and raised overseas (Asia & North America).

    When I first heard about Lin – an Asian American playing very good basketball, I was not interested. I’m just not a basketball fan. Then I learned that he graduated from Harvard. My ears perked up and I read everything I can about him.

    Chinese people value education more than anything, even money. That’s why I think Lin is attractive to a wider audience and not only sports aficionados or men. I was in China last spring and my masseuse even knew who Lin is and follows his every move. Last fall, my sister saw cardboard images of Lin in Kentucky food chain stores in China.

    This season, I bought myself an International League Pass (the first one I purchased in my life). I would be interested to know how many more League Passes were sold by the NBA because of Lin.
     

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