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What would be the effect on organized religions

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by mclawson, Dec 4, 2012.

  1. FranchiseBlade

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    Depending on your belief of God you may see something from him every single day.

    The argument is pointless. I believe in the bible when it says Those that know love know God and that God is love. I see that every single day. It isn't something that needs to be proven or disproven.

    Others have different ideas on what God is or isn't, so that's up to them.
     
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  2. Rocket River

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    Honestly. . . . I don't have to prove anything.
    I am not trying to convince you
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    I am going to act on my beliefs.

    Just as folx have FAITH and BELIEF that the LabCoats
    all tell the truth and have no agenda to persuade, influence and manipulate people
    other
    have FAITH and BELIEF in their religious belief

    The Religion of MAN . . i.e. Science has its Zealots as well.
    You have your methodology . . . we have ours.

    Rocket River
     
  3. bobmarley

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    The problem is naturalism. In evolutionary scientists perspective there is no room for anything supernatural. Everything has to be proven without anything supernatural. Is it possible that supernatural occurrences have happened?
     
  4. RocketMan Tex

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    I'd rather see them lose their tax-free status....
     
  5. MadMax

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    this is when Christianity actually becomes about following Christ. please do it! sign the law today! :)
     
  6. bobmarley

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    So all houses of faith, Christian or otherwise should pay taxes.

    How would you tax them? Like a corporation? Based on the size? Amount of offerings brought in? What is your plan?
     
  7. bongman

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    I am not trying to convince you or anybody of anything. When somebody throws the logic that nobody has proven that god does not exist, that is a false statement/claim and needs to be addressed.
     
  8. bongman

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    Don't want to derail the topic of indoctrination and I agree with you that everybody had the right to believe what they want. As long as those beliefs don't affect others daily life.
     
  9. bobmarley

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    So you are saying you don't want me to help others because that is what I believe and it will affect others?
     
  10. bongman

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    Name me one claim in this universe that does not have to be proven to true. Religion and the supernatural seems to be only ones who want to be given this excemption.

    From the science point of view, the claim of the supernatural violates what we currently know about the laws of nature. Don't want to derail the topic and i will leave it at that.
     
  11. bongman

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    That is where my problem is. You are basing what you think is right based on your personal beliefs. Just look at sex same marriage and abortion, these are 2 topics that highly debated. Majority of the folks against abortion and same sex are religous. That affects other peoples lives.
     
  12. rockbox

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    But how many weren't religious to start out with. I don't know many religious people that were atheist before unless they had some tragic even happen to them.
     
  13. bobmarley

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    So if I want to feed the hungry or help children who have no parents, I should keep my Christian charity away from them, because I might affect them?
     
  14. bobmarley

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    C.S. Lewis?
     
  15. Major

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    Maybe those life-long athiests were indoctrinated at a young age that religion was bad/evil/etc?
     
  16. bongman

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    You don't have to be a Christian to understand that helping people is a good thing. There are quite a number of secular organizations dedicated to feeding the hungry.

    I love this conversation but we are going off topic. If you want to open a new thread, please do so and we can continue if from there. Cheers
     
  17. bobmarley

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    Thread derailing is allowed when trolls post them.

    Christianity has taught me more about selfless living and sacrificial love then just living. The default feeling of most people is pretty selfish. Christianity turns that on its head, when it teaches us that, those who come first will come last.
     
  18. bongman

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    That is always a possibility. But if you consider the fact that there is no book for atheism that is equivalent to the bible or weekly services where we congregrate and share our thoughts and opinions, indoctrination to atheism becomes less .
     
  19. RocketMan Tex

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    Tax them like a corporation, based on the amount of offerings brought in.

    Why shouldn't churches, synagogues, mosques, and other houses of worship pay taxes?
     
  20. bongman

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    I like the troll comment . :-D. I am glad that you have learned that in Christianity. As far as I am concerned, I was able to understand this without the bible's help.
     

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