You can hate our guards all you want, but the Rockets have, without a doubt, the worst set of forwards in the league. Griffin and Taylor, the supposed "power forwards" are shooting under 40%, which I wouldn't bet against being the worst in the league. The only defense either one brings is Griffin's ocassional weak side shot blocking, but other than that, they're both mediocre defenders. While other power forwards in the league like to take the ball inside, these guys are too busy shooting jumpers, which is pretty much one of the last things you want your 4 to do on a regular basis. At least with KT, you knew he was going to TRY and mix it up inside...It's sad to say, but CATO is our best power forward! Get him in there with Yao up front! I hate to criticize Rice when he is injured, but his ancient body is almost useless when he's not hitting his threes. 35% just won't cut it... Posey is the only bright spot of the bunch, bringing good perimeter defense, and is actually shooting a little better since being traded...any offense he brings is a bonus... Look at the West contenders, and everybody but San Antonio and the Lakers are getting significant contributions from their forwards, and the Spurs and Lakers have dominant, high scoring centers (Duncan is a center, not a PF) When I think of forwards, I think of guys that can multitask. A power forward that can score and play defense when needed, a small forward that can take it to the hole and shoot from the outside. The Rockets don't have this...
Affirmative. Rock on bra! Well anyways, STojakovic is like 35% from behind the arc as well. GET RID OF GLEN RICE. Mo Taylor...actually made 2-3 shots tonight. Hdidn't get the ball enough.....like everyone else on our team. Moochie actually did OK. BUT you are right. POSEY is good. He is pretty consistent and makes some nice moves. Terence Morris is the only one who can shoot properly...but is too small. I SAY GET RID OF ALL OF THEM!!!!!!!!!! Except Posey...and then sign a good power forward! Glen Rice and Mo Taylor leaving would give us a lot of money.. I WISH.....I WISH...
Only part of your post that I agree with. Eddie Griffin had one bad game so we bash him...thats fine, but if you say him and MoTay are the worst in the league you are absurd. I would take Griffin over Samake Walker any day of the year. How about Vin Baker? Please dont tell me you would rather have Vin. Griffin and MoTay are actually a pretty good pair considering we have Yao in the front court with them.
lol......how about ROBERT TRACTOR?!??!?! Lord... Samaki Walker!!! LOL. Hmm...well there are many of them that are worse. But still...Mo's makin a lot of money. He does good occasionally. We need a better power forward. WE NEED A BETTER EVERYTHING...except a center and small forward.
I don't mind Mo Taylor taking outside shots. We all know he's a great outside shooter, and it helps open up the offense as well. Griffin on the other hand... not much you can say, except he'll have his nights where he looks great, and then he'll have his nights where he looks horrible. Just part of the maturation process...
I agree. If Taylor wouldn't have gotten hurt, he'd probably still be the 50% shooting, 13 point-per-game scorer he was during his first year with the Rockets. Damn, I didn't really care for it much then, but I would love that type of efficient production out of our power forward now! As for Eddie, he's either too young or not good enough to be a starter. In my opinion, he's still too young. All this is compounded because the power forward position might be the strongest in the league, and it definitely is the position that rules the West. If the Rockets are ever going to be true contenders they'll need better production from their power forwards.
What I can't figure out about Griffin is how he can shoot one open 3 that swishes the net and looks great, and then shoot another wide open 3 in the same game, and barely hit backboard (sometimes even airball). What kind of a player has that wild of a shot? What this tells me is that Eddie is not a shooter, by any stretch of the imagination...and he should really stop shooting outside shots, because he apparently can't do it well consistently enough to justify taking them.
Gene Peterson calling a Griffin defensive play: "Eddie backing it up...backing it up...backing it up...looks for the swat, Eddie turns, fades, jumps and yells BINGO. Garnett for 2."
it's interesting to take a look at what our forwards have done in tonight's game: JAMES POSEY: 3GM-A 1/4 EDDIE GRIFFIN: 3GM-A 1/6 like three-pointer shootter if only see the attempt.
Explain something to fatman.... we have a 20 year old in Eddie, and Mo"Tay" who is a very big body.. BOTH of them shoot from the OUTSIDE... I'd rather have a foward (or fowards) who take close shots and miss then taking 5 threes a game, one after another, when you havent hit one yet... We're lucky Steve shoots as many FT's as he does, if he didn't, we would've have won a single game this season. Mo "Tay" and Eddie couldn't draw a foul if they had a pencil in their hand and a sheet of paper to write on!
I wouldnt say we have the worst PF in the league. Eddie is not terrible...but not very good. Only plus to him are is long arms on defense, no offense. MoTay, well. He is expensive...and uhh...in a big slump. I dont like us having Rice though, He is just a big waste of money. We are keeping him on the IR list, I mean, is he really still injured? Well. he is expensive, too old, and does not hit his threes often enough. Air Bull needs to help Rice on his release.
Eddie griffin is not a power forward. he does not have the size and strength to play that position. in offense, he's out farther than francis and mobley. how many 3s he does attempt in a game? 4? 5?
EG and MoT are going to be important to the Rox in the second half. Other teams are finding the formula to contain the Rox. Deny the entry pass to YM, double-team him, let YM pass the ball to the outside shooter. Let Steve work his shot, if it goes in, it is fine. Leave EG, Posey and Mobley take the outside shot, especially for EG, the 15-18 feet jumper will be there for him to take. It is like the old bulls or the current Lakers, you try to contain the two superstars in Jordan/Pippen, Shaq/Kobe, but you know you are not going to fully contain them, but you can let them pass out the ball. So the strategy is to let the other players beat you. Bulls had the PF to take that shot in their first championship run. Lakers have Horry/Fox to do the job. Now either EG or Mobley has to step up. However, Steve is not as good as Kobe, and YM is not as good as Shaq. It is thus going to be very difficult.
I think the team shoud start imposing a fine everytime Griffin takes a shot outside of 20 feet. He doesn't even draw iron on some of them.
All those trades look a lot better now. The book is out on the Rockets : double off the four - forget him. Play Cato when he comes back. Sub with Tmo.
tossing out any notion of potential, and discussing just exactly how Griffin can help us this year... Here is my list of Western Conference PFs (or people who would play PF for us...like EG is a PF) who I wish Griffin was playing like right now versus the way he is playing...based on superior defense/rebounding, or enough offense to burn doubling Yao, thus help make the offensive system work. This list is largely based on the fact I don't think Griffin plays defense or rebounds like a PF at all, and I'd trade in his offensive game for pretty much anyone....he bumps into people, misses picking/cutting assignments, hesitates with the ball allowing defenses to recover, thinks he can shoot 3s...etc. Listed in order by teams: Nowitzki Duncan Malik Rose Malone Kirilenko Garnett Joe Smith Marc Jackson Gasol Lorenzen Wright Gooden Juwan Howard Webber K Clark R. Wallace D. Davis Stoudemire S Walker Horry Radmanovich Jamison Murphy Brand If I had my wish right now, arguments about future Potential aside, I'd rather see Griffin playing like these guys, than what he is doing right now. We might disagree on some of these reserves, but it remains a large list nonetheless.
