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Beyond the raw stats, looking at how the Rockets compare through 10 games

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by meh, Nov 20, 2012.

  1. meh

    meh Member

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    Numbers from: http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/HOU/2013.html. A great reference website because, quite frankly, sometimes my eyes lie to me, and I honestly watch very little NBA besides the Rockets.

    A few things we match up against the rest of the league. Note that I'm not using raw stats, but ones that adjust for number of plays. i.e.

    Offense Rank: 13th
    Defense Rank: 19th
    Pace: 5th(perhaps to build up more gaudy numbers for trade baits?)
    Since McHale went out, our offense and shot up the board and defense dropped big time.

    Offensive Rebounding: 9th
    Defensive Rebounding: 10th
    The highest rated aspect of our game

    Shooting: 14th
    Opp Shooting: 25th
    We shoot alright for a team with so few weapons. But defensively either effort or talent is simply not there

    FT attempts: 11th
    Opp FT attempts: 6th
    James Harden factor on offense, perhaps Asik factor on defense?

    Turnovers: 26th
    Opp Turnovers: 21st
    It's not a surprise we lose the ball a lot. But despite all of Lin playing the passing lane, opponents don't turn the ball over against us.

    To me, gotta improve on taking care of the ball, and challenge shots. These are things we can improve on simply by playing smarter and harder. The other aspects, IMO simply lack of talent to be better.
     
  2. mirus

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    A post from NVP from dreamshake regarding to our offensive problems
    (@Hornets game)
    Read more :http://www.thedreamshake.com/2012/11/15/3648758/prevent-offenses-does-not-work
     
  3. leebigez

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    Pretty good Meh and I will add my .02. Its obvious this team is very limited both offensively and defensively. The youth aspect of it doest help either.Most times withyoung teams,defense is the last thing they pick up unless their best player is a beast defensively. If that's our gauge and harden is our best player,we're in trouble. Harden makes martin look like gary payton as a defender. In terms of offensively,they don't have many natural offensive players. 3 out of the staring 5 are not natural threats. Off the bench,morris is a offensive player but has turned 1 dimensional,smith is not offensive,delfino is just a spot up guy,and jones isn't getting a lot of minutes.
     
  4. meh

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    The problem is that teams are capable of denying transition as long as they play a certain way. Just watch any of our JVG teams and see how they can almost always force a half-court game. The downside of that is you give up a lot of offensive sets. You can't cut to the basket as much. You can't go for offensive rebounds as much. This is why people who talk about combining Adelman offense with JVG defense don't know what they're talking about. They're more or less mutually exclusive, unless you have supremely talented, multi-dimensional players.

    So if teams in the 4th quarter want to play a more safe style, half court game, the Rockets can't do anything about it. They simply have to play better half-court offense. They can't just run 2-on-4 breaks.
     
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    A brutally honest assessment, as usual. :)

    I think Harden looked particularly horrid last night on defense, but I'll chalk that up to his flu-like symptoms or whatever that was. I'm not ready to say he's as bad as defender as Kevin Martin, but defense is not a strength of his and as one of our "leaders" he needs to put more in effort on that end.

    Not sure why you think Morris is turning 1-dimensional, however. He's rebounding, playing better defense than last year, he's hitting the spot up 3-pointer and he's also able to put the ball on the floor and hit the mid-range jumper. His all-around game has been one of the few positives of late.

    Let me also give you credit for your early assessment of Patrick Patterson way back in his rookie year. You claimed he was a "back-seat" player. At the time, I thought that was an unfair assessment and that he had the potential to be a solid to very good starter (if not an all-star level player). Two years later, and your initial assessment looks to be the closest to the mark.
     
  6. Fawkward

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    Morris is not 1 dimensional. He can score from anywhere on the court.
     
  7. lunaticrocket

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    Nice stats. I think they pretty much show we are a young team. Poor at defense, high energy leads to rebounds, sloppy with the ball.

    It will be fun to see them improve throughout the season. We really need McHale back. This is the most exciting season in a looong time.
     
  8. jtr

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    As good of a take as it gets meh. So the Rockets are right where the life long NBA fans thought they would be. Mocking the use of basic arithmetic symbols to represent a team:

    (Youngest team) + (Highest roster turnover) + (average talent) = LOTTERY

    But I think most of us are optimistic. The Rockets should improve faster than most NBA teams this season, and there is the lottery and the max contract to consider.
     
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    Agreed with everything you said.

    As great as Parsons has been shooting he's not an offensive minded player.

    PPatt could be but he's too soft to do anything

    Although Lin likes to attack the rim, if it's not open he can't do much on offense (because he can't shoot)

    We may have the most inept offensively talented team in the league. I feel like every game we have to hit every one of our shots just to stay in it.
     
  10. Joe Joe

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    Definitely agree with this. It is sad that Patterson has regressed in needed areas. He's gotten better on positional defense and his shot has gotten better, but his rebounding just has gone from marginally bad to atrocious. His shot blocking was an okay plus his rookie year to meh now, but I think that is him playing smarter defense. I thought he had a shot at being a very good starter.
     
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    This season Parsons has been running A LOT of PnR's....something that's not really his strength. I think it's by necessity when we have noone else who can create.

    Parsons never ran a PnR when we had Dragic and Lowry running the show.
     
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    Parsons was a rookie last year. Just an observation.
     
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    In practice?
     
  14. Joe Joe

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    Lin and Harden are not working together well at moment. I expect Lin will get his scoring efficiency up close to where he was last season. That alone could account for nearly 2.5 extra points per game.

    I suspect Jones will have a decent TS% once he settles down. This will also add points once he is in rotation. Losing Patterson eventually from rotation will probably hurt the defense short term.

    I wonder how bad the transition defense is for Rockets as that could be contributing a lot to the how bad the total defense is. Half court defense needs to improve, too.
     
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    Rockets transition offense 1.07 PPP 22nd in the NBA
    Rockets transition defense 1.22 PPP 24th in the NBA
     
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    We are one win from the playoffs based on current standings, and one loss from bottom three in the western conference.

    Given our age, inexperience, lack of chemistry, and having being in every game except against the LAL, I'd say we're tracking ahead of progress.
     
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    Interesting ... I would've thought our transition offense was better. Eyes do lie.
     
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    Not surprised. Our transition offense is ****. We turn the ball over a lot in transition. Players need to stop dribbling on the break & pass. It is a lot easier to defend the drible in transition than it is the pass.
     

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