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[Chron] Players: Kubiak is Underrated

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by sugrlndkid, Nov 6, 2012.

  1. codell

    codell Member

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    So ya'll are blaming Kubiak for the defense today? ROFL!!!!!

    that is rich
     
  2. Hippieloser

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    Yeah, guys, Kubiak is the OFFENSIVE coach!
     
  3. BucMan55

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    When the whole team is playing poorly, that's on the Head Coach...
     
  4. rezdawg

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    We played scared there...we had been dominating, absolutely dominating in the passing game. Should have had a couple short passes instead of those runs. Settling for a long FG when our kicker is questionable? Bad move by Kubs.

    Sure, the penalty sucks...sure, we had other issues...but when playing aggressive gets you back in the game, no reason to resort to the "safe" play in a situation like that.
     
  5. DonkeyMagic

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    9-1 and people still b**** then I'd say that's the definition of underrated.
     
  6. rezdawg

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    Welcome back...you never responded to my last post.

    The arguments I make have nothing to do with record...we would still be 9-1 with everything I have proposed. In fact, at the end of regulation, we may have been able to win the game with passes instead of 2 run plays. And no overtime would have been necessary.

    Good to see you back here though.
     
  7. codell

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    No kidding. I am fine with Kubes not getting credit for the D, nor should he, but you can't critique him when they fail.

    Kubes offense put up record #s today and he called a great game to win it. Anyone that finds much issue with his play calling today is off his rocker.
     
  8. Relentless

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    where's the jj watt dancing gif?
     
  9. DonkeyMagic

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    I didn't read it really nor do I care to. It's painfully clear that you are incapable of yielding, or acknowledging, the obvious flaws in you opinion. You think your opinion is right, and from an objective standpoint and argument sake, it just is not the case. Basically, in football 101, you copied off the wrong person's paper
     
  10. rezdawg

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    Just because he called a great game and we ended up pulling it out doesnt mean there isnt room for improvement. The 3rd and 17 run play when we are losing...terrible, terrible call.

    Running the ball with regulation ending and settling for a 40+ yard FG...when we had like 17 straight completions...bad call.

    We could have very easily not been in the overtime situation. Great game calling overall....but the only gripes Ive had with him as a head coach showed up again today. Yes, we won...but that's not my point. We would have still won the other way around, but with possibly less headache.
     
  11. rezdawg

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    My only point is not to waste a possession on 3rd and long when you are tied/behind or its in the first half.

    Kubiak went against that rule and failed again, in that aspect of the game.

    Its one tiny little area...but its an area where my point has stood. Ive shown the numbers of why its a more effective play to pass the ball than run the ball in those specific situations. You're failure to understand simple math is hilarious.

    And yes, you read that post...you just didnt have any response to it.

    You're that guy that only shows up in threads to join the crowd as the big tough guy...but when you get called out, you cower. Youve yet to ever post anything on Clutchfans that goes against the popular opinion. Says a lot about you. Keep fighting for those greenies, champ!
     
  12. DonkeyMagic

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    Well one can always knit pick and that's fine..but at least self aware enough to know that it is knit picky and nothing more.
     
  13. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    How do you KNOW they would be 9-1 with everything you have proposed? The only thing we know for a fact is they are 9-1 playing the way they have played. For all we know, had one of those 3rd and long runs, been an intercepted pass, an entire game may have changed.

    Also, for all we know, Schaub may have thrown a "pick six" at the end of regulation and no overtime would have been necessary.
     
  14. 713

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    Today's game was the definition of Conserviak.
     
  15. rezdawg

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    Just like Foster fumbled on 3rd and long, Schaub could throw an interception...sure, I get that. However, everyone keeps talking about how we have 20 point leads in every game, so Im guessing an extra pass attempt most likely wont change the outcome.

    What if Foster had fumbled one of those two last runs? Sure, he didnt...but running the ball yields a risk as well. When Foster has already fumbled in the game...and almost had another fumble (at the goal line)....while Schaub had completed 17 straight passes to a defense that was pretty much leaving the middle of the field open, chances are that we could have found someone open for a 5 yard pass without much risk of a turnover.

    In the end, we know that the two run plays ended up forcing us into overtime...so that's not a positive argument for running the ball. I know that if we were playing the Saints or Packers...and we were in the Jags situation playing defense, I would have much preferred them to run the ball in that situation than pass. So, Im sure as a Jags fan, they were relieved to see that we stopped passing after we had knocked their asses to the ground with our 5 receiver set. They had no answer for that, specially with the hurry up style offense.
     
  16. codell

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    Exactly. It's easy to b**** about playcalling when the play doesn't work.
     
  17. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Again, the only thing we know for a fact is that they are 9-1 with their play calling. We have no idea what their record would be if they called different plays.

    There is nothing wrong with questioning teams, players or coaches, but to harp on play calling in games they win seems awfully nit-picky, especially when they gain 600+ yards and score 40+points.

    And to further your "in the end" argument...in the end, the Texans won.
     
  18. rezdawg

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    When has running the ball on 3rd and long worked for the Texans this season?

    When has passing the ball on 3rd and long worked for the Texans this season?

    You can look it up in this thread.

    When we run the ball on 3rd and long, deep in our territory in the first half, it has nothing to do with gaining better field position or controlling the clock with a lead. Its a total waste of a possession.

    Again, when this happens only one time every single game, its not that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things...but if we get into a game where one possession makes a difference, Im sure everyone would like to have that run play back.

    Its Kubiak's nature to play on the conservative side...its not b****ing...its pointing it out.
     
  19. rezdawg

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    Yeah, the Texans won with the pass...not the run. That's my entire point, thank you.
     
  20. codell

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    We are 9-1. Whatever we are calling on 3rd and long has us winning.
     

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